The Ongoing Super Mega Weather Thread v3

[Nufy]

Does anyone do seamless steel siding anymore ?
I have it on my house and it seems relatively bullet proof.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LP siding is a good choice as well(and looks better than Hardie, IMHO). I do wonder why we use so much vinyl in Calgary. Well, cost I guess. But still. It sucks.

Because its cheap!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LP siding is a good choice as well(and looks better than Hardie, IMHO). I do wonder why we use so much vinyl in Calgary. Well, cost I guess. But still. It sucks.

If that LP is the stuff I think it is you have to be very careful in sealing the cut ends. I had a leak with that stuff (or a similar looking product) a few years ago that put me out $8k and insurance wouldn’t cover it. Mine wasn’t used as siding, it was for decorative trim.

[Flabbibulin]

Wonderful news for us. Vacation was eventually just cancelled by yesterday’s mess at YYC. But apparently the expedia cancellation insurance I purchased for our package isnt going to cover us, as the policy states in some random line that it only covers weather related events that occur at the destination. Yay!

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Wonderful news for us. Vacation was eventually just cancelled by yesterday’s mess at YYC. But apparently the expedia cancellation insurance I purchased for our package isnt going to cover us, as the policy states in some random line that it only covers weather related events that occur at the destination. Yay!

That sucks. Sorry to hear this. Does your credit card have any additional insurance or protection that might cover where Expedia didn't?

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

That sucks. Sorry to hear this. Does your credit card have any additional insurance or protection that might cover where Expedia didn't?

Possibly. Gonna pursue every option. Of course the outgoing flight was refunded due to the cancellation- they had rebooked us on a flight 3 days later, which was simply not going to work with any of our other bookings, childcare etc. But they are inexplicably giving us trouble on refunding the baggage fee and seat selection we paid during online check-in. And we made the dreaded mistake of booking a separate carrier for flight home, so the refund for the cancelled outgoing flight isnt covering the return.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

If that LP is the stuff I think it is you have to be very careful in sealing the cut ends. I had a leak with that stuff (or a similar looking product) a few years ago that put me out $8k and insurance wouldn’t cover it. Mine wasn’t used as siding, it was for decorative trim.

If it's installed properly it should be fine. I stuck an unpainted chunk in a bucket for 5 months and it barely swelled. It is the same as all the trim that gets used on most houses(but I see many poor installations of even that when I look). They do have restrictions on installation, like keeping it above the ground a bit and rooflines need flashing and spacing. Nothing I ran into was an issue. I primed and painted all my cut ends on the garage. When I did my house they have a new product, the pro line that has lapping on the ends, so it's even better to install and goes up quick.

I do know they had a lot of failures in the 90's that gave it a bad name, but all those issues should be resolved.

[You Need a Thneed]

In non Calgary weather news - Both Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk are forecast to beat their all-time highest temperature ever by about 2 degrees today.

Forecast is for 35C in Inuvik, 32C in Tuktoyaktuk today.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Honestly they should just ban siding or make insurance on siding houses so expensive that nobody wants to do it.

Every year we collectively are forced to pay more for insurance because of these claims that are avoidable.

Siding is way cheaper but in the long run it isn't and it also looks like crap. Hardy board is way more in the short term but will last way longer and withstand hail.

I still love stucco. Imo looks the best and holds up to pretty much anything and is a little cheaper than hardy board.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

True, although failed stucco is obviously immensely expensive.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Wonderful news for us. Vacation was eventually just cancelled by yesterday’s mess at YYC. But apparently the expedia cancellation insurance I purchased for our package isnt going to cover us, as the policy states in some random line that it only covers weather related events that occur at the destination. Yay!

I feel for you, as I had to cancel my vacation as well yesterday.

Expecting Westjet to not refund my cancellation even though they cancelled our original flight on Saturday, before cancelling this morning's flight due yesterday afternoon. Think I'm SOL with the hotel booking too as I had to cancel it last night.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I am currently in Vancouver and cancelled for tomorrow with no replacement (Westjet).

Is this only impacting domestic flights? Or US as well?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Is this only impacting domestic flights? Or US as well?

Both. It's not just the terminal closures, lots of planes need to be inspected/repaired for hail damage

Lots of cancellations all over the place

https://www.flightaware.com/live/fle...etime;sort=ASC

[Sainters7]

Ugh what a mess, sorry to hear so many of you are in this situation! My buddy works for WestJet, he had to drive to the airport for a domestic flight right when that mess was starting 2 nights ago. I just assumed it was cancelled and he came home, I was kinda shocked to learn he was at his destination when I reached out yesterday to see if he was ok. Apparently the flight was only delayed a couple hours too. How???

Hopefully at least some of you were able to catch flights ok that night, since it sounds like some WestJet flights still got out ok.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Honestly they should just ban siding or make insurance on siding houses so expensive that nobody wants to do it.

Every year we collectively are forced to pay more for insurance because of these claims that are avoidable.

Siding is way cheaper but in the long run it isn't and it also looks like crap. Hardy board is way more in the short term but will last way longer and withstand hail.

I still love stucco. Imo looks the best and holds up to pretty much anything and is a little cheaper than hardy board.

Hardie is siding.

Stucco has just as many failures as other claddings, and the acrylic is easily ruined by a bird.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Both. It's not just the terminal closures, lots of planes need to be inspected/repaired for hail damage

I saw a video online that was taken by someone in a Flair plane that was sitting at the terminal when the storm rolled through. The sound of the hail on the fuselage was wild. It makes me wonder whether all those flights that were on the ground either boarding or taxiing when the hail hit were cancelled. I can't imagine any of them were able to take off without inspections.

So yeah, not surprising to see so many cancellations.

[bomber317]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Possibly. Gonna pursue every option. Of course the outgoing flight was refunded due to the cancellation- they had rebooked us on a flight 3 days later, which was simply not going to work with any of our other bookings, childcare etc. But they are inexplicably giving us trouble on refunding the baggage fee and seat selection we paid during online check-in. And we made the dreaded mistake of booking a separate carrier for flight home, so the refund for the cancelled outgoing flight isnt covering the return.

ugh, that sucks.

We have a big vacation planned for January that we got Trip Cancellation and Trip Interruption insurance for. Reviewed the policy and the language is specific but also vague on certain items.

It is annoying because I could call up the agent and they could "clarify" a hypothetical situation, but that isn't binding. For example, would our policy cover the crowdstrike outage? Or this hail damage to YYC airport, etc, etc.

Our CC also has coverage by default, but that policy is the last resort policy and had even more restrictions on if they will pay out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hmm maybe its a good idea to reach out and let them know what is happening with WestJet, I don't think they would be aware with what happened here. Or does WestJet reach out to people to let them know?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Hardie is siding.

Stucco has just as many failures as other claddings, and the acrylic is easily ruined by a bird.

You obviously know he meant vinyl siding vs hardie board. And vinyl is far less durable than stucco too.

The issue is that when the storm gets really bad - i.e., breaking your windows bad - it's going to shred vinyl but it's also going to damage hardie and stucco. The question is more, are you likely to get storms where vinyl would be badly damaged but those other claddings wouldn't. I don't think it's crazy to suggest that this was such a storm, at least in calgary.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Hardie is siding.

Stucco has just as many failures as other claddings, and the acrylic is easily ruined by a bird.

Why are you like this? You know what I was talking about.