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Old 08-05-2024, 02:52 PM   #17861
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45% of Americans say religion is "very important" in their life, with another 26% saying it is "fairly important" and 28% saying it's "not very important."

Only 22% of Americans say they have no religious affiliation. That number is even lower (20%) for immigrants.

The most religiously observant demographic in the U.S. is Black women, 64% of whom say religion is very important to their lives, and 58% of whom believe you can’t be a moral person if you don’t have religious faith.



When you combine that with the high religiosity of American Latinos, an atheist has little chance of winning the Democratic nomination in the U.S. in the next couple decades, let alone the presidency.
If there is someone on this site who should never bring statistics to the table it is CliffFletcher. I've never seen so many weird interpretations of data and claims of causation from one poster. If the data fell the way Cliff claimed, blacks would always vote with the evangelicals and Republicans would never lose. What is lost on Cliff is that there are people who can separate church and state and understand they should never meet. Evangelicals and fundamentalists are just those who refuse to separate the two and think the church should guide the state in all actions. Most other denominations or religions clearly don't hold that same view.
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Old 08-05-2024, 03:39 PM   #17862
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Pretty massive drops in the stock market over the past two days. Similar to the 1987 Black Monday crash, but brought on by multiple factors at once:

-Japan's currency and interest changes, which was a major tool for the speculation market, causing them to sell off positions.
-Hype around AI weakening, showing that those recent massive gains were a bit of a bubble.
-Weak recent jobs report with indicators that unemployment is rapidly rising, triggering the Sahm rule.
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The unemployment rate has soared this year from 3.7% to 4.3%. That trend has triggered a recession indicator known as the “Sahm Rule,” which says that a rise of 0.5 percentage points in the unemployment rate within a 12-month period typically precedes a recession
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/rece...a%20recession.


Recession is very likely coming now. Just how bad? Dunno, but this should play a major factor in the upcoming election. The Democrats can no longer claim the economic high ground, but voters experiencing a recession would also very much be in favor of Trump's massive tax cut plans and vote for him purely for those reasons. The fed may not want to cut interest rates too much in order to keep inflation in check, so that may increase the possibility of recession as well. I'm far from a financial expert, so maybe someone else has something to add to help understand everything that's going on?

Maybe the timing of this is too close to the election and won't hit the average voter for another 6 months, but it is a concerning factor that could sway voters.
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Maybe the timing of this is too close to the election and won't hit the average voter for another 6 months, but it is a concerning factor that could sway voters.
That is what it comes down to. If it is mainly a stock sell off and main street doesn't feel it until after the election then it won't matter as much but watch out if people start getting laid off in major ways or house prices crash
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Recession is very likely coming now. Just how bad? Dunno, but this should play a major factor in the upcoming election. The Democrats can no longer claim the economic high ground, but voters experiencing a recession would also very much be in favor of Trump's massive tax cut plans and vote for him purely for those reasons. The fed may not want to cut interest rates too much in order to keep inflation in check, so that may increase the possibility of recession as well. I'm far from a financial expert, so maybe someone else has something to add to help understand everything that's going on?

Maybe the timing of this is too close to the election and won't hit the average voter for another 6 months, but it is a concerning factor that could sway voters.
If voters choose more of the same failed Trump trickle-down policy that created this inflationary mess in the first place, they'll be deserving of every bad thing Trump brings upon them.

Problem is, they'll be dragging all Kamala voters, and the rest of the world, down into the toilet with them.

WHY can't people see that giving break after break after break to the wealthy always yields disastrous results? Can't they see corporations recording record profits while the majority of people are struggling and the world is literally burning? Don't people have eyes?

As a Canadian watching US politics over the past decade, words can't describe the level of frustration and rage it has caused me.
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Trump hanging out with Adin Ross.
Did he sniff his chair?
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Old 08-05-2024, 04:40 PM   #17866
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I read that he did come out to 50 Cent's "Many Men"...
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Old 08-05-2024, 04:48 PM   #17867
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Did he sniff his chair?
https://twitter.com/user/status/1820538708472570071

And yes he came out to many men.

Adin also watches his sisters Only Fans. They will never beat these weird allegations.
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If voters choose more of the same failed Trump trickle-down policy that created this inflationary mess in the first place, they'll be deserving of every bad thing Trump brings upon them.

Problem is, they'll be dragging all Kamala voters, and the rest of the world, down into the toilet with them.

WHY can't people see that giving break after break after break to the wealthy always yields disastrous results? Can't they see corporations recording record profits while the majority of people are struggling and the world is literally burning? Don't people have eyes?

As a Canadian watching US politics over the past decade, words can't describe the level of frustration and rage it has caused me.
Amusing
Trumps policies created worldwide inflation?
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Trumps policies created worldwide inflation?
It played a big part in it. It also made it impossible to fight the inflation without sharply raising interest rates.
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It played a big part in it. It also made it impossible to fight the inflation without sharply raising interest rates.
That’s not something new or a Trump thing. Raising rates has always been used to fight inflation.

I would be surprised if Donald Trump even knows what inflation is.
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And yes he came out to many men.

Adin also watches his sisters Only Fans. They will never beat these weird allegations.
He's a very weird human

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Oh god Andrew Tate another weird one.
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That’s not something new or a Trump thing. Raising rates has always been used to fight inflation.

I would be surprised if Donald Trump even knows what inflation is.
Trump's policies caused inflation (in conjunction with other factors such as supply chain issues, global instability caused by Putin, and unprecedented surge in demand for housing).

With tax rates on corporations and wealthy people cartoonishly low, inflation keeps getting worse.

Leaving no way to fight it other than cancelling the tax cuts (impossible due to Manchin/Sinema in the senate), or sharply raising interest rates. Hence they were raised.
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Oh god Andrew Tate another weird one.
Why does the right have so many deeply weird and generally awful humans with public personalities, and the left has...uhm...? Where is the both sides here? I want someone to be embarrassed about too.
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Trump's policies caused inflation (in conjunction with other factors such as supply chain issues, global instability caused by Putin, and unprecedented surge in demand for housing).

With tax rates on corporations and wealthy people cartoonishly low, inflation keeps getting worse.

Leaving no way to fight it other than cancelling the tax cuts (impossible due to Manchin/Sinema in the senate), or sharply raising interest rates. Hence they were raised.
Best of luck convincing people of that. You are right, but it’s almost impossible to get people to see that. It’s like they are locked into this fairy tale of republicans = economy good, democrats= economy bad and not a thing could shake that.
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Why does the right have so many deeply weird and generally awful humans with public personalities, and the left has...uhm...? Where is the both sides here? I want someone to be embarrassed about too.
Wasn’t RFK a Democrat or did he just use the party platform ?
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Brian Kemp is a complete coward. Actually he’s another C word. Trump trashed him and his wife and he’s on his knees for Trump saying let’s win this election.
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I'm not sure RFK is really a figure of the left though? Maybe Flat Earthers?
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I'm not sure RFK is really a figure of the left though? Maybe Flat Earthers?
He seems to be one of those people Trump keeps referring to that have broken out of the asylums.
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Link to the full Trump & Adin video Here.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1820507768178307443

Kamala Harris needed Meg the Stallion to fill the stadium. Then lied about Trump's rally in Atlanta a few days later.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1819854289650790714

Trump's Rally in Atlanta without celebrities or performers to bring in people.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1819859825733546195

...and here's a few clips of Kamala.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1819797240052920758
https://twitter.com/user/status/1820541467271524439
https://twitter.com/user/status/1820106196751200687
https://twitter.com/user/status/1819399815924797802
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