Israel declares war on Hamas

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

I don't understand, based on his quote, how he arrived at that conclusion. Civilian infrastructure of Hamas is not what is required for basics of life. Civilian infrastructure of Gaza does. Hamas - unlike Israel - is a legit terrorist organization. Targeting its infrastructure is perfectly legit. That Falk dude is truly turning the world upside down if he's trying to say that targeting Hamas infrastructure is state terrorism. I guess, USA is a terrorist organization too now, for targeting Al Qaeda infrastructure..

But all infrastructure in Gaza is controlled by Hamas, including that which is required for human life. So if you say it is all fair game, you are saying it is OK to destroy critical infrastructure which leads to the deaths of innocent non-combatants. Now, you can say that, but that makes you a supporter of terrorism.


I'm gonna bow out here, because you clearly just want to find ways to say what Israel is doing is fine, and are OK with the deaths of those who never had a chance as long as it makes Israel think they are safer. I personally find that reprehensible, and inhumane, but their is no changing your mind on it.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Because this is not how entities end up being terrorist organizations. Even if I would agree, that Israel is a terrorist organization, it will not make them such. It would be no different than if we both agree that Backlund won Selke. It won't bring him Selke.

I didn't mention terrorist organization.

It is was a simple question asking whether or not what he is describing are acts of terrorism.

I'll ask again.

Explain if the doctor below is describing terrorism or not and if not, why not?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1815348253212246440

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Leaving actually IS doing something about Putin. If everyone did like me and left, there would be no war. The war is because of people, who didn't leave but rather went or sent others to war.

You left because you didn't want to get conscripted into the army. It wasn't some valiant protest.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by BigThief

You left because you didn't want to get conscripted into the army. It wasn't some valiant protest.

He's saying the people of Gaza need to solve their Hamas problem...soemhow, he solved his Putin problem by leaving. I'm not going to say that was the wrong move for him and his family, I'd have left too. But I wouldn't be lecturing others about how to overthrow their oppressive leadership after I left. Unless he's working hard on that in exile.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Snuffleupagus won't respond to that video and will just disappear for while so they don't have to.

What exactly am I supposed to respond to? A sniper killed a baby?, A friend of mines son killed a 9 year old in Afghanistan because his father was hiding behind his kid, does that make him a terrorist?

I don't like that the IDF are killing so many innocents but I understand it, tell you what, if a neighbour came into my yard and killed someone in my family I would burn their house down no matter who was in it.

Violence breeds Violence and Israel has had enough of their crazy neighbours.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He’ll respond if he finds something fitting on a white nationalist YouTube channel he can share in response.

More stupid lies

Once again for the last time, point to a post where I posted white nationalist material, you and your brother Zary are fighting on who's the biggest lying tool on this board.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

What exactly am I supposed to respond to? A sniper killed a baby?, A friend of mines son killed a 9 year old in Afghanistan because his father was hiding behind his kid, does that make him a terrorist?

I don't like that the IDF are killing so many innocents but I understand it, tell you what, if a neighbour came into my yard and killed someone in my family I would burn their house down no matter who was in it.

Violence breads Violence and Israel has had enough of their crazy neighbours.

More stupid lies

Once again for the last time, point to a post where I posted white nationalist material, you and your brother Zary are fighting on who's the biggest lying tool on this board.

Violence breads Violence

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Violence breads Violence

Feel better?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Feel better?

No. I don't think anyone feels good abut this.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by BigThief

You left because you didn't want to get conscripted into the army. It wasn't some valiant protest.

I'd say that's pretty valiant protest. If the alternative is fighting in an unjust war or going to prison, then leaving is a way of not contributing to the war, or the Russia as a whole.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

What exactly am I supposed to respond to? A sniper killed a baby?, A friend of mines son killed a 9 year old in Afghanistan because his father was hiding behind his kid, does that make him a terrorist?

I don't like that the IDF are killing so many innocents but I understand it, tell you what, if a neighbour came into my yard and killed someone in my family I would burn their house down no matter who was in it.

Violence breeds Violence and Israel has had enough of their crazy neighbours.

More stupid lies

Once again for the last time, point to a post where I posted white nationalist material, you and your brother Zary are fighting on who's the biggest lying tool on this board.

So you totally understand and sympathize with how Palestinians react then, right? Or does that only apply when a rocket hits Israel? You even seem to understand how that leads to violence breeding violence. And yet you still say you understand why the IDF does it. So if you know all that, how can you not speak against it?

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by BigThief

You left because you didn't want to get conscripted into the army. It wasn't some valiant protest.

This is blatant false, as described in details in this post:

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=4757

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

So you totally understand and sympathize with how Palestinians react then, right? Or does that only apply when a rocket hits Israel? You even seem to understand how that leads to violence breeding violence. And yet you still say you understand why the IDF does it. So if you know all that, how can you not speak against it?

It's not rocket science. The IDF will stop it's violence when Hamas is gone from Gaza and what's left of the hostages are returned home, If Hamas returns they'll do it all over again, sooner or later Arabs in the region will realise Israel is far too powerful to fight and maybe they can get peace, if not the unthinkable will happen and the region will never be the same.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Pointman

This is blatant false, as described in details in this post:

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=4757

I am terrified at how horrible war is and that it's my country that is doing it. I don't understand why there's such a thing as "war crime", as it seems to imply that the war itself somehow is not a crime. Like a war is ok as long, as you play it by some rules. It should not be like this. War itself should be a crime. Killing military should be as much of a crime, as killing civilians, because soldiers are humans too.

[BigThief]

Great link

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Beheaded babies was never proven to be lies. It just was never proven truth either.

This is literally the logic my 8 year old daughter uses to defend the fact that she isn't tricking her little brother when she says that she believes dragons are real.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

This is literally the logic my 8 year old daughter uses to defend the fact that she isn't tricking her little brother when she says that she believes dragons are real.

Beheaded or not babies were still killed, when your daughter can show your brother a real dragon then you'd have logic.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Beheaded or not babies were still killed, when your daughter can show your brother a real dragon then you'd have logic.

No need for the past tense, babies are still being killed.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Beheaded or not babies were still killed, when your daughter can show your brother a real dragon then you'd have logic.

Ah, now she can show him an iguana - a dragon without wings!

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

No need for the past tense, babies are still being killed.

But he doesn't care about those babies.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Pointman

This is blatant false, as described in details in this post:

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=4757

This post does nothing to explain why you left. And you don't need to explain it because a lot of people would have done exactly what you did. Maybe they wouldn't have moved to another country that is perpetuating war crimes daily but that's what you did.

So please don't pretend you moved as some sort of protest. You moved because you were rightfully scared to be thrown into a war you didn't agree with and that's logical.

It's when you pretend like you did it as a protest that rubs me and others the wrong way.

You moved from one terrible country to another terrible country because you didn't wanna risk your life and I would have made the same choice if I was in your shoes. Not to Israel of course but I wouldn't be pretending I was doing it out of protest.

I read your first posts in that war thread. Not the Ukraine thread the other one and you definitely flip flopped in the tone of your posts and then you moved to another country.