Israel declares war on Hamas

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

You conveniently failed to also mention the terrorist attack today by Hezbollah that killed Arab Druze kids playing soccer.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...el-2024-07-27/

It's totally irrelevant so yeah of course I didn't mention a total separate incident. One in which hezbollah has denied. A terrorist organization usually doesn't deny terrorist attacks so yeah its probably not them.

Difference between me and you is I have condemned Hamas as a terrorist organization but you've done nothing but go to bat for a terrorist state.

Next time you want to be cute with your "you conveniently failed to mention" take a long and hard look in the mirror and see if you can look yourself in the eyes and continue to go to bat for a terrorist state.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

It's totally irrelevant so yeah of course I didn't mention a total separate incident. One in which hezbollah has denied. A terrorist organization usually doesn't deny terrorist attacks so yeah its probably not them.

I was unaware of this characteristic of terrorist organizations.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I was unaware of this characteristic of terrorist organizations.

well to be clear the south Lebanon area has a #### ton of various militias and other terrorist groups so it might not be them, on top of that Bibi is desperate to start a war with Hezbollah in order to be able to order a ceasefire in Gaza and yet stay in power as a 'wartime PM'

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

well to be clear the south Lebanon area has a #### ton of various militias and other terrorist groups so it might not be them, on top of that Bibi is desperate to start a war with Hezbollah in order to be able to order a ceasefire in Gaza and yet stay in power as a 'wartime PM'

It's true, however only Hezbollah seems to have this type of rockets. They also have reasons to deny their doings, as they accidentally killed Arabic kids instead of Jewish settlers. If Hezbollah admits it was their rocket, they would have to admit their grave mistake with targeting.

[Looch City]

Now Israel is 100% justified to destroy all of Lebanon and 110% of it's population. Let's go!

[robertsfan]

Majdal Shams is in Syria, not Israel.

The UNSC told Israel to leave and their annexation "null and void”.

The area is primarily Arab- since when did Israel start caring about the killing of Arab children?

From the report below:
“ By mistake, Channel 12 left the microphone on in the studio and one of the analysts in the background said, "They are not Israeli citizens”

https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status...PW0P5yX3muLt6g

[robertsfan]

There are many accounts of the Iron Dome mis-firing. Israel killing Arabs and blaming it on Arabs so they can kill more Arabs is on-brand (and evil).

The rest of the world always believing Israel’s claims on first whim, despite the multiple times their claimed have been debunked, is on point and disgusting.

https://x.com/partisangirl/status/18...PW0P5yX3muLt6g


https://x.com/ahmed_hassan_za/status...PW0P5yX3muLt6g

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by robertsfan

There are many accounts of the Iron Dome mis-firing. Israel killing Arabs and blaming it on Arabs so they can kill more Arabs is on-brand (and evil).

The rest of the world always believing Israel’s claims on first whim, despite the multiple times their claimed have been debunked, is on point and disgusting.

https://x.com/partisangirl/status/18...PW0P5yX3muLt6g


https://x.com/ahmed_hassan_za/status...PW0P5yX3muLt6g

Misfired interceptor doesn't create such a blast on the ground.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by robertsfan

Majdal Shams is in Syria, not Israel.

The UNSC told Israel to leave and their annexation "null and void”.

The area is primarily Arab- since when did Israel start caring about the killing of Arab children?

From the report below:
“ By mistake, Channel 12 left the microphone on in the studio and one of the analysts in the background said, "They are not Israeli citizens”

https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status...PW0P5yX3muLt6g

This area is governed by Israel. Some consider it "occupation". Those people are Arabs, most of them rejected Israel citizenship and still consider themselves Syrians. Hezbollah considers this area as occupied by Israel and thus legit target (although they likely didn't intend to go for Arab village). Israel considers the land to be theirs and thus views it as attack on Israel. In fact, the whole world seems to view it as attack on Israel, regardless of whether they consider the annexation as legit.

There are many Arabian villages in Israel, including core Israel lands. People in core lands, though, do have Israeli citizenship. For example the one i below is a short bus ride away from me:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isfiya

[robertsfan]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Misfired interceptor doesn't create such a blast on the ground.

Of course not - Iron Dome interceptor missles are angelic puffs of air that float with the wind - they’re only called missles because that’s what khamas named them.

What a bizarre claim.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

This area is governed by Israel. Some consider it "occupation". Those people are Arabs, most of them rejected Israel citizenship and still consider themselves Syrians. Hezbollah considers this area as occupied by Israel and thus legit target (although they likely didn't intend to go for Arab village). Israel considers the land to be theirs and thus views it as attack on Israel. In fact, the whole world seems to view it as attack on Israel, regardless of whether they consider the annexation as legit.

There are many Arabian villages in Israel, including core Israel lands. People in core lands, though, do have Israeli citizenship. For example the one i below is a short bus ride away from me:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isfiya

And to absolutely clear on that, basically no one recognizes it as legit, except I think Donald Trump, for whatever the #### that is worth to you. And "in fact" is going to need a citation, because I have my doubts on that too.

[Snuffleupagus]

Someone remind me why there's a such a thing as Israel's Iron Dome?

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Someone remind me why there's a such a thing as Israel's Iron Dome?

To intercept incoming missiles.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And to absolutely clear on that, basically no one recognizes it as legit, except I think Donald Trump, for whatever the #### that is worth to you. And "in fact" is going to need a citation, because I have my doubts on that too.

Sure:

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday that there was “every indication” that Lebanese group Hezbollah was behind a rocket strike in the Israel-annexed Golan Heights that killed 12 young people.

“Every indication is that indeed the rocket was from Hezbollah. We stand by Israel’s right to defend its citizens from terrorist attacks,” Blinken told reporters in Japan

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2483668...attack-blinken

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by robertsfan

Of course not - Iron Dome interceptor missles are angelic puffs of air that float with the wind - they’re only called missles because that’s what khamas named them.

What a bizarre claim.

Interceptors are air-to-air missiles or ground-to-air. They don't cause large explosions on the ground. On the other hand, ground-to-ground rockets do.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf...her%20missiles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf...urface_missile

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Interceptors are air-to-air missiles or ground-to-air. They don't cause large explosions on the ground. On the other hand, ground-to-ground rockets do.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf...her%20missiles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf...urface_missile

Payload is what matters not design type. A malfunctioning missile will detonate on the ground and explode with what ever payload it has. It doesn’t matter what they are called.

Now if your argument is that iron dome missles have low payloads therefore don’t do as much damage when they malfunction you could reasonably show that. But the way you are phrasing it is just wrong

[robertsfan]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Sure:

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday that there was “every indication” that Lebanese group Hezbollah was behind a rocket strike in the Israel-annexed Golan Heights that killed 12 young people.

“Every indication is that indeed the rocket was from Hezbollah. We stand by Israel’s right to defend its citizens from terrorist attacks,” Blinken told reporters in Japan

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2483668...attack-blinken

Precious- tell me about a time when an American politician has countered an Israeli claim.

And then tell me about how that American politician was labeled by other members of the US congress, or other politicians- and what happened to their career.

Spoiler Alert- instant labeling of “anti-Semitic”

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Sure:

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday that there was “every indication” that Lebanese group Hezbollah was behind a rocket strike in the Israel-annexed Golan Heights that killed 12 young people.

“Every indication is that indeed the rocket was from Hezbollah. We stand by Israel’s right to defend its citizens from terrorist attacks,” Blinken told reporters in Japan

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2483668...attack-blinken

The US is far from "the whole world".

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by GGG

Payload is what matters not design type. A malfunctioning missile will detonate on the ground and explode with what ever payload it has. It doesn’t matter what they are called.

Now if your argument is that iron dome missles have low payloads therefore don’t do as much damage when they malfunction you could reasonably show that. But the way you are phrasing it is just wrong

Thank you. I meant that Iron dome missiles are designed to destroy missiles in the air and thus have small payload. Hezbollah's missiles, on the other hand, are designed to create as much damage on the ground, as possible.

People, who claim that it was a misfired Israel interceptor, are just mirroring what Israel sometimes does: claims, that a blast in Gaza was caused by misfired Hamas missile. It's understandable, but wrong for purely military reasons. Hamas missiles are designed to create huge blast on the ground. So if they misfire and fall in Gaza, they create huge blast. Iron dome missiles do not.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The US is far from "the whole world".

Russia, an Iran ally, also condemned the attack. Of course, they added that the way Israel respond to terrorism is unacceptable. But pretty much every leader clearly sees it as attack on Israel.

https://ria-ru.turbopages.org/turbo/...962460229.html