07-26-2024, 07:06 PM
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#121
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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07-26-2024, 07:43 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Is there any actual proof that Marek was "leaking information" ?
If true, im really curious how he would know who teams were about to take, particularly in this draft where it seemed after pick 2 or 3, it was all over the place and teams wouldnt know who they were taking until their turn because they didnt know who would actually be available.
I dunno...whole thing is a weird story.
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One thing to consider is the logistics behind entering the pick, relaying the info to master control to get the cameras in place and queuing the clips for the drafted player. So between the pick being registered they’re probably getting some of that info 20 seconds before the pick is made.
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07-26-2024, 08:33 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bluejays
One thing to consider is the logistics behind entering the pick, relaying the info to master control to get the cameras in place and queuing the clips for the drafted player. So between the pick being registered they’re probably getting some of that info 20 seconds before the pick is made.
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So… past posting? Anyone who makes a bet that close to the announcement of the pick is cheating, and anyone who accepts such a bet is a sucker.
Not a good look for Marek if he was involved in something like that. But my sympathy for anyone who got ripped off in such a way is pretty limited.
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07-26-2024, 09:34 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
So… past posting? Anyone who makes a bet that close to the announcement of the pick is cheating, and anyone who accepts such a bet is a sucker.
Not a good look for Marek if he was involved in something like that. But my sympathy for anyone who got ripped off in such a way is pretty limited.
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I don’t think it’s past posting. I could be wrong but I believe while teams are sitting at the draft table they have to register the pick. Then they walk up and announce the selection. So in between that time I suspect a few individuals in master control are informed of the pick so they can pan the cameras to the right person and queue the highlights, facts, etc. If Marek is told the pick he could just shoot a quick text to someone. Even a number to inform them of that pick. I know Bob Mackenzie is idolized here for some reason but there’s no way he guessed right all the picks. He was probably informed the same way through internal production what picks were being made (in his case he’s not doing it for money, but rather to uphold a reputation).
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07-26-2024, 10:07 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bluejays
I don’t think it’s past posting. I could be wrong but I believe while teams are sitting at the draft table they have to register the pick.
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If people are being tipped off and placing bets after the pick is registered but before it is announced, that's past posting by definition.
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07-26-2024, 10:44 PM
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#126
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
If people are being tipped off and placing bets after the pick is registered but before it is announced, that's past posting by definition.
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Apologies. I didn’t realize that was a betting concept you were referencing. I thought you originally meant he was passing on late info that was useless.
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07-26-2024, 11:42 PM
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#127
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Although oddly worded, Friedman’s tweet sounded like their podcast would go on (?). That suggests to me the rumour about Marek and betting is not true.
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07-27-2024, 12:37 AM
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#128
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
Although oddly worded, Friedman’s tweet sounded like their podcast would go on (?). That suggests to me the rumour about Marek and betting is not true.
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Pretty sure he means their podcast will go on without Marek.
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07-27-2024, 01:34 AM
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#129
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Originally Posted by bluejays
Apologies. I didn’t realize that was a betting concept you were referencing. I thought you originally meant he was passing on late info that was useless.
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Not everybody has heard the term, because it's mostly obsolete with modern communications. It used to be a fairly common way of cheating when betting on horse races.
If you've ever watched The Sting, the ‘big con’ involved past posting. The con artists said they had a man inside the Western Union telegraph office, holding back the telegrams from different race tracks for a few extra minutes so they could bet on races that had already been run. (This con was only a cover for the real con, which I won't spoil for those who haven't seen it. It's an extremely fun movie.)
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07-27-2024, 01:38 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
The ignore function is for weakling losers!
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The best is people that put you on ignore and then won't shut up about putting you on ignore lol
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07-27-2024, 07:09 AM
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#131
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I am not surprised that the gambling issues are happening in every league these days. When the leagues allow gambling on their sport, when they advertise it 20 times per game on their broadcasts and have gambling sites advertising in their facilities I don't know what they expected.
Casinos and online gambling don't do it because it is fun, they supply the outlets for gambling so they can pocket billions of dollars. When you throw young people into that environment they are going to partake of what their teams have let into the room.
When gamblers find somebody to give them inside info, Marek in this case if it is proven, was more than likely offered a sum for info that he thought was harmless. The gamblers usually get to people who see the gambling around them and figure "why shouldn't I get my share, everyone else is profiting".
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07-27-2024, 07:15 AM
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#132
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Maybe he just quit?
I don't know, personally I have a hard time believing a guy that has covered hockey for so long and especially the scandals, controversies etc (most recently Pinto) would find himself thinking he should "get his share"
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07-27-2024, 07:32 AM
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#133
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Yeah from doing a shallow "dive" into this, it seems like the narrative is nothing but internet gossip.
Also has anyone seen a betting site that was offering odds on who was getting picked where past the very top of round 1?
With the July 1 timing about renewing contracts, SN's apparent reluctance to keep the experienced and veteran talent, and just taking Mareks overall character and history into account, this seems so unlikely and almost impossible. Though its also odd there has been zero push back or denouncement from Marek or his agent about it either.
Again, just a weird flex on this whole thing.
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07-27-2024, 07:55 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Yeah from doing a shallow "dive" into this, it seems like the narrative is nothing but internet gossip.
Also has anyone seen a betting site that was offering odds on who was getting picked where past the very top of round 1?
With the July 1 timing about renewing contracts, SN's apparent reluctance to keep the experienced and veteran talent, and just taking Mareks overall character and history into account, this seems so unlikely and almost impossible. Though its also odd there has been zero push back or denouncement from Marek or his agent about it either.
Again, just a weird flex on this whole thing.
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People make stupid decisions. What he did, to what degree, we’ll probably never know, but all of us make mistakes. Throw $10,000 to random person for turning a blind eye to something like gambling and I’d guess many would take up the offer if it seemed innocent enough. In the grand scheme of things even if he did it, I’m not too fussed. It’s just an interesting story. Poor decisions will be made, meh.
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07-27-2024, 08:04 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
PepsiFree isn't even top 60 all time posts.
Unlike the Mr.Billable Hours Locke.
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If you'd ever used my services you'd know that I charge for work, not hours. Unless you make me do bookkeeping.
I've worked for firms that operate on 'Billable Hours' and its a big reason I work for myself, because I hate that.
Anyways, why drag me into this?
I know nothing of Jeff Marek, I just assume that he's the latest casualty in what is becoming a brutal industry...sports reporting is just...its as cut-throat as they come.
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07-27-2024, 11:04 AM
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#136
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Friedman with the "life throws you curve balls" comment on X adds more speculation.
Chances are we will never know because of legalmor contract things that will prevent net Marek from bothering to disclose.
I think he didn't like his limited draft role that he felt demoted to and his enthusiasm on air showed it that night. When called out he pushed back probably and has basically the 2024 version of the Dave Hodge pen flip, and that was that.
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07-27-2024, 11:16 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Yeah from doing a shallow "dive" into this, it seems like the narrative is nothing but internet gossip.
Also has anyone seen a betting site that was offering odds on who was getting picked where past the very top of round 1?
With the July 1 timing about renewing contracts, SN's apparent reluctance to keep the experienced and veteran talent, and just taking Mareks overall character and history into account, this seems so unlikely and almost impossible. Though its also odd there has been zero push back or denouncement from Marek or his agent about it either.
Again, just a weird flex on this whole thing.
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Bet365 was taking bets on most of the first round. Most of them weren't choosing specific draft positions, but which player would go before another. I lost two bucks on Buium not getting taken before Yakemchuk.
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07-27-2024, 12:44 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Bet365 takes bets on how long between nose picking intervals of ‘insert CP nemesis here.’
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07-27-2024, 02:09 PM
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#139
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by bluejays
People make stupid decisions. What he did, to what degree, we’ll probably never know, but all of us make mistakes. Throw $10,000 to random person for turning a blind eye to something like gambling and I’d guess many would take up the offer if it seemed innocent enough. In the grand scheme of things even if he did it, I’m not too fussed. It’s just an interesting story. Poor decisions will be made, meh.
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You might not be too fussed, but if true, this could be very damaging to Marek’s reputation. As a guy in his 50’s, could be curtains over this supposed breach of sensitive information. No GM/agent/player in their right mind would trust him with sensitive information or at the very least being very guarded about it.
Again, if true, I doubt Marek is sleeping all that well these days. I wouldn’t be.
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07-27-2024, 02:56 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by TOfan
You might not be too fussed, but if true, this could be very damaging to Marek’s reputation. As a guy in his 50’s, could be curtains over this supposed breach of sensitive information. No GM/agent/player in their right mind would trust him with sensitive information or at the very least being very guarded about it.
Again, if true, I doubt Marek is sleeping all that well these days. I wouldn’t be.
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True. I personally didn’t see it as a fatal sin but for his career it can’t be very good. Though I think all these guys are sharks who share info when it best suits them. They really are professional gossipers.
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