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Old 07-24-2024, 05:26 AM   #2681
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So...re-watching the Mandalorian...

If he's not allowed to let anyone see him without helmet...how does he get a haircut?

Does he do it himself?

Are there authorized Mandalorian Barbers?

We know he doesnt like/trust droids.

Its a conundrum.
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So...re-watching the Mandalorian...

If he's not allowed to let anyone see him without helmet...how does he get a haircut?

Does he do it himself?

Are there authorized Mandalorian Barbers?

We know he doesnt like/trust droids.

Its a conundrum.
Maybe he kills every barber after the cut...
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Old 07-24-2024, 10:07 AM   #2683
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His hair cut isn't exactly stylish, so I would assume it's some scifi widget he uses. Maybe he shaves his head every couple months and we just never see him bald?
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He definitely has one of those Flowbee things.
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Helmet cuts it for him.
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Helmet cuts it for him.

you need to kill a jedi to get their light sabre.
then use the light sabre to cut your hair like in the acolyte
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Probably one of the best pitch meetings ever done, and it hits on Locke's obsession with OSHA.


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That ending was a bit odd for me. I'm not quite sure that I understood the motivations for all the characters and how that would lead to their actions.

Sol turning into a blubbering idiot and admitting that he was responsible for everything was a bit much. The witch mother did turn into evil looking fog and then seemed to attack or suck the life out of one of the children before they killed her. That's a pretty reasonable reaction. Master Torbin taking a vow of silence over that incident? If that's all it takes to force a Jedi to require a decades long vow of silence, in their prime, to atone, they aren't going to get very far in their role as protectors. I mean the witches did earlier mind control him. That's hardly the act of benevolent group of people.

Am I way off here? I just don't see how what the Jedi did was so bad. They give the two girls, who are clearly being used as child soldiers or at the very least pawns, by the witches, the options to leave. One of them chooses to leave. The witches resist this and turn into a fog monster, meanwhile there's all sorts of confusion because Osha has lit the place on fire and there's zero fire control precautions. In that confusion, the supposedly not evil witch mother gets killed.

And surely there must have been a cleaner way for Rwoh to deal with the whole thing, than what she did. It was as though she was purposely going out of her way to act corruptly without any need to do so. It's a galaxy of trillions of people, where genocides of entire planets happen on the regular and there's all sorts of major mafias enslaving entire planets. Surely, this accidental witch killing can't be that big of a deal. Can't they just write a police report, mentioning the witch turning into an evil looking fog monster.

We're also talking about Jedi. Obi Wan, in TOS, seemed to pull out his light sabre at the drop of a hat and dismember people. Now, the death of one questionably evil witch is causing all this disarray?
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That ending was a bit odd for me. I'm not quite sure that I understood the motivations for all the characters and how that would lead to their actions.

Sol turning into a blubbering idiot and admitting that he was responsible for everything was a bit much. The witch mother did turn into evil looking fog and then seemed to attack or suck the life out of one of the children before they killed her. That's a pretty reasonable reaction. Master Torbin taking a vow of silence over that incident? If that's all it takes to force a Jedi to require a decades long vow of silence, in their prime, to atone, they aren't going to get very far in their role as protectors. I mean the witches did earlier mind control him. That's hardly the act of benevolent group of people.

Am I way off here? I just don't see how what the Jedi did was so bad. They give the two girls, who are clearly being used as child soldiers or at the very least pawns, by the witches, the options to leave. One of them chooses to leave. The witches resist this and turn into a fog monster, meanwhile there's all sorts of confusion because Osha has lit the place on fire and there's zero fire control precautions. In that confusion, the supposedly not evil witch mother gets killed.

And surely there must have been a cleaner way for Rwoh to deal with the whole thing, than what she did. It was as though she was purposely going out of her way to act corruptly without any need to do so. It's a galaxy of trillions of people, where genocides of entire planets happen on the regular and there's all sorts of major mafias enslaving entire planets. Surely, this accidental witch killing can't be that big of a deal. Can't they just write a police report, mentioning the witch turning into an evil looking fog monster.

We're also talking about Jedi. Obi Wan, in TOS, seemed to pull out his light sabre at the drop of a hat and dismember people. Now, the death of one questionably evil witch is causing all this disarray?
It would be best if you didn't try to frame the show within the context of Star Wars.

The writers certainly didn't.
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That ending was a bit odd for me. I'm not quite sure that I understood the motivations for all the characters and how that would lead to their actions.

Sol turning into a blubbering idiot and admitting that he was responsible for everything was a bit much. The witch mother did turn into evil looking fog and then seemed to attack or suck the life out of one of the children before they killed her. That's a pretty reasonable reaction. Master Torbin taking a vow of silence over that incident? If that's all it takes to force a Jedi to require a decades long vow of silence, in their prime, to atone, they aren't going to get very far in their role as protectors. I mean the witches did earlier mind control him. That's hardly the act of benevolent group of people.

Am I way off here? I just don't see how what the Jedi did was so bad. They give the two girls, who are clearly being used as child soldiers or at the very least pawns, by the witches, the options to leave. One of them chooses to leave. The witches resist this and turn into a fog monster, meanwhile there's all sorts of confusion because Osha has lit the place on fire and there's zero fire control precautions. In that confusion, the supposedly not evil witch mother gets killed.

And surely there must have been a cleaner way for Rwoh to deal with the whole thing, than what she did. It was as though she was purposely going out of her way to act corruptly without any need to do so. It's a galaxy of trillions of people, where genocides of entire planets happen on the regular and there's all sorts of major mafias enslaving entire planets. Surely, this accidental witch killing can't be that big of a deal. Can't they just write a police report, mentioning the witch turning into an evil looking fog monster.

We're also talking about Jedi. Obi Wan, in TOS, seemed to pull out his light sabre at the drop of a hat and dismember people. Now, the death of one questionably evil witch is causing all this disarray?
You could argue that the Jedi shouldn't have ever intervened in the first play. Sol made up the reasoning that he felt the girls were in any kind of danger. There was never any indication of that. And he created that narrative and believed it so firmly that he just reacted and killed their mother.

But the fact is that the Jedi showed up and basically tried to lay their philosophy on the witches that they were the only one that could be trusted to train force users, even after the witches stated that they weren't part of the Republic.

Then Sol decided to return to their homes, he was intent on taking those kids away. Because he so badly wanted a Padawn.

All of the death that day came from sheer Jedi arrogance and entitlement.

You had a Padawan that wanted to go home so he was easily manipulated by Sol. You had them break into someones home and pressure them into giving up their children.

Then when the Witches tried to protect themselves against the Jedi they paid with their lives. If the Jedi wouldn't have gone there, wouldn't have unnecessarily interfered, then none of this death would have happened.

Sol was a good man, that did a bad thing because he believed what he was doing was good.

And he destroyed lives, and even in the end in his arrogance he couldn't see that he was in the wrong.

And then it gets worse as the Jedi lie to cover up the whole thing. And clearly if this show continues Yoda will take part in this cover up to deceive the Senate.

What Sol did was equivalent to the Catholic Church feeling they had the right to seize children and educate them themselves because only the church was right minded when it came to Children.

In the end, the real justification of Order 66, beyond Palpatine wanting to seize power and enact the revenge of the Sith, was that the Jedi needed to evolve and reform and clearly the Force was ok with that.
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Acolyte got so terribly uninteresting, I couldn't even make it to the mid season saber fight people were talking about.

Why do they keep nuking the brand well after the ST and its backlash?

Get the right ####ing people in there and stop greenlighting mediocre garbage.
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Acolyte got so terribly uninteresting, I couldn't even make it to the mid season saber fight people were talking about.

Why do they keep nuking the brand well after the ST and its backlash?

Get the right ####ing people in there and stop greenlighting mediocre garbage.

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Acolyte got so terribly uninteresting, I couldn't even make it to the mid season saber fight people were talking about.

Why do they keep nuking the brand well after the ST and its backlash?

Get the right ####ing people in there and stop greenlighting mediocre garbage.
Acolyte was a struggle.

Its like they had JJ Abrams write it. There were some interesting ideas and moments but as soon as you think about the plot critically it completely falls apart.
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Acolyte was a struggle.

Its like they had JJ Abrams write it. There were some interesting ideas and moments but as soon as you think about the plot critically it completely falls apart.
Yeah.

I realized I couldn't fairly assess it without letting it run through so I had it on in the background while doing other things (wow so many tedious stretches..)

Thought the villain and fight scenes when they came around were well executed. Maybe 15 minutes total where your eyes were drawn or glued to the TV.

But that plot was rough. At many points it did not feel like Star Wars at all. Like you said, seeds of some interesting ideas were there but it never materialized into more than that.

And to think this cost more than the Phantom Menace to make..
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You could argue that the Jedi shouldn't have ever intervened in the first play. Sol made up the reasoning that he felt the girls were in any kind of danger. There was never any indication of that. And he created that narrative and believed it so firmly that he just reacted and killed their mother.

But the fact is that the Jedi showed up and basically tried to lay their philosophy on the witches that they were the only one that could be trusted to train force users, even after the witches stated that they weren't part of the Republic.

Then Sol decided to return to their homes, he was intent on taking those kids away. Because he so badly wanted a Padawn.

All of the death that day came from sheer Jedi arrogance and entitlement.

You had a Padawan that wanted to go home so he was easily manipulated by Sol. You had them break into someones home and pressure them into giving up their children.

Then when the Witches tried to protect themselves against the Jedi they paid with their lives. If the Jedi wouldn't have gone there, wouldn't have unnecessarily interfered, then none of this death would have happened.

Sol was a good man, that did a bad thing because he believed what he was doing was good.

And he destroyed lives, and even in the end in his arrogance he couldn't see that he was in the wrong.

And then it gets worse as the Jedi lie to cover up the whole thing. And clearly if this show continues Yoda will take part in this cover up to deceive the Senate.

What Sol did was equivalent to the Catholic Church feeling they had the right to seize children and educate them themselves because only the church was right minded when it came to Children.

In the end, the real justification of Order 66, beyond Palpatine wanting to seize power and enact the revenge of the Sith, was that the Jedi needed to evolve and reform and clearly the Force was ok with that.
Osha clearly didn't want to "ascend" in that weird witch ceremony. She wanted to be a Jedi. She wanted to live a life with other children. There was also clearly something unwholesome going on with the witches plans.

Mae clearly exhibits psychopathic behavior by using her force powers to torture animals, and the witches were fostering that attitude.

Relating that to the Catholic church removing indigenous kids is a bit of a stretch.
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I wouldn’t say the comparisons of the Catholic church or the Residential school system throughout the show were a stretch. I think they were almost a little on-the-nose to be honest. From the Jedi’s sense of superiority and giving themselves the authority to unilaterally sweep children off other planets and cultures because it is what’s best for them; overpowering weaker cultures to make them subjugate them; the beatings that Qi Mir suffered for practicing the Force in a way that was different than the Jedi’s.
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Fair enough. I just don't think they did a very good job of portraying the witch culture as benevolent. It was far more of a grey area.
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I've only watched reviews of this series. I don't have a problem showing the Jedi as flawed but it sounds like they just flat out suck now. That makes it difficult to understand how they successfully kept peace and justice for the galaxy over a thousand generations.
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I've only watched reviews of this series. I don't have a problem showing the Jedi as flawed but it sounds like they just flat out suck now. That makes it difficult to understand how they successfully kept peace and justice for the galaxy over a thousand generations.

They seemed to be dumb, for lack of a better word. Powerful, but clueless.
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