[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Speaking of Joe Colborne, whatever happened to JD Watt?

Beer leagues in cgy

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

What happened to Jason Wiemer? Always used to see him back in the day hanging with warrener. Jesus those were dark days.

Every time I hear Wiemer I have to bring this up.

Because of him we lost the 2004 cup.

We traded the 2nd round pick to Tampa which became Brad Richards for him.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Maybe he wants a fresh start somewhere that he won't be constantly reminded of his mental health issues?

Pretty hard to decipher someone's motivations from behind a computer screen.

Totally agree. It's likely trying to decipher why someone would be a (shudder) oilers fan!!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Locke

Let me check ye ol' Farmer's Almanac....

Gotta get my bi-focals out...

Quit complaining, sonny. I'm wearing tri-focals.

I put 'em on, and then I try to focus.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Quit complaining, sonny. I'm wearing tri-focals.

I put 'em on, and then I try to focus.

I know you!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Locke

I know you!

I see you've met my granddaughter.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I see you've met my granddaughter.

She's trying her best!

[joejoe3]

What has happened to this thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

What has happened to this thread

I imagine we'll start hearing more news in a couple of weeks when teams start inviting players to PTOs, and JP Barry is going around to teams hat in hand.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Nah - He was on and off the taxi squad a lot that season.


EDIT: The D was Gio, Hanifin, Andersson, Tanev, Valimaki, Stone, with Mackey and Nesterov around as well.

I remember this season and thinking how pissed I would have been in his shoes…the Flames kept him on the Taxi squad, preventing his development at the pro level, keeping his salary at and AHL level, and not giving him the opportunity to get picked up on waivers by another team.

For some reason, I thought of this when he tried to play hardball with Conroy, seeing as how they essentially wasted a year of his career and earning power. Covid was a b****, even for the rich and priveliged .

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I remember this season and thinking how pissed I would have been in his shoes…the Flames kept him on the Taxi squad, preventing his development at the pro level, keeping his salary at and AHL level, and not giving him the opportunity to get picked up on waivers by another team.

For some reason, I thought of this when he tried to play hardball with Conroy, seeing as how they essentially wasted a year of his career and earning power. Covid was a b****, even for the rich and priveliged .

Maybe if he had the choice he would have picked the taxi squad. Who knows.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I imagine we'll start hearing more news in a couple of weeks when teams start inviting players to PTOs, and JP Barry is going around to teams hat in hand.

If it comes to that Kylington needs to fire Barry to the moon

[Strange Brew]

Guess I’d be surprised if he wants a PTO.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Guess I’d be surprised if he wants a PTO.

It depends on his options in the fall I suppose. There's an assumption he goes to Europe if he doesn't catch on here. But when are their rosters set?

And PTOs can lead to more than a one year deal in theory.

[FlamesAddiction]

If he wants to play in the NHL, he'll try to get a PTO. He could still sign on with a team without going the PTO route, but it certainly makes it easier to get interest if you have a stage to audition on.

Given that he wanted a contract with term, you have to think that he still wants to play in the NHL. I doubt he had ulterior motives and am pretty sure wanting a longer term contract was to ensure future NHL job security.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

If it comes to that Kylington needs to fire Barry to the moon

Why? Agents do the players bidding. Sure they offer advice and suggestions based on their conversations with GMs and such, but in the end thats all it is. Advice and suggestions.

The player has final say and we know he was offered a deal...so he and he alone is responsible for not having something in place right now.

OK overvalued himself IMO (which is mind boggling based on the last 2 years) and now has to find another way back.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why? Agents do the players bidding. Sure they offer advice and suggestions based on their conversations with GMs and such, but in the end thats all it is. Advice and suggestions.

The player has final say and we know he was offered a deal...so he and he alone is responsible for not having something in place right now.

OK overvalued himself IMO (which is mind boggling based on the last 2 years) and now has to find another way back.

Well bad decisions often follow bad advice. Players have the final say but many are likely to follow the advice of their agents and relying on them for guidance in the process. That said, for all we know Barry advised him to take the Flames deal and the player either wanted a fresh start or more money/term. Either way it's clear that the Kylington side read the market wrong and will have to likely go the PTO route.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why? Agents do the players bidding. Sure they offer advice and suggestions based on their conversations with GMs and such, but in the end thats all it is. Advice and suggestions.

The player has final say and we know he was offered a deal...so he and he alone is responsible for not having something in place right now.

OK overvalued himself IMO (which is mind boggling based on the last 2 years) and now has to find another way back.

Agree. tAgent presents alternatives and gives his opinion. "We have a potential 4 year deal over here contingent on bla bla bla or stay with the team that drafted you and stood by you on rolling one or two year deals...which do you want?"

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well if the Washington was going to offer 4 years seems like something to wait for?

Who knows what was offered, or what was said.

It's July 25th and he's is still doing his test so its not going well for him.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If he wants to play in the NHL, he'll try to get a PTO. He could still sign on with a team without going the PTO route, but it certainly makes it easier to get interest if you have a stage to audition on.

Given that he wanted a contract with term, you have to think that he still wants to play in the NHL. I doubt he had ulterior motives and am pretty sure wanting a longer term contract was to ensure future NHL job security.

I wouldn't call it ulterior motives. He might just prefer job security above all else and could be willing to go wherever he can to get that.