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Old 07-19-2024, 08:30 PM   #16861
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LOL. you guys actually read what he typed? it was more longwinded than Trump's speech hahaa
You actually watched his speech? Hehe you seem like a fan. Your posts are completely useless. At least that poster tries to contribute. You do nothing but try to be funny but you're awful at that too. Can't wait until president Trump wins and you disappear faster than that E=NG poster after the oilers lost hehe.
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Old 07-19-2024, 08:30 PM   #16862
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The highest inflation in 40+ years?
Inflation is by far the #1 issue to Americans.
You have been blessed if inflation and subsequent interest rates haven't significantly affected your own family financial situation.

It is easy to see that Obama recovered the economy if you look at 2002 to 2016 and trump inherited that. When he was president, the stock market was the be all and end all.


He made tax cuts that timed our for the middle class. Let's not forget it was McCain who stopped medicare from being cancelled and replaced but a book of blank pages. They have already said they will kill it.


And if you think things will get cheaper when he comes in, gives tax cuts to the rich and donors, the applied tariffs to everything then I have a bridge to sell you. Inflation will be on the rise again. Insulin will go back up in price, medicare will again be repealed, then lets see how much the middle class loses.



The GOP have tried to kill any policy and under trump he is just for sale. Ill bet you 100 dollar donation to CP that when and if Trump takes office, inflation gets worse, but also while the middle class loses 1 other thing that is saving them money now.


Can you name what policies the GOP has implemented under trump or a bill submitted while they have controlled the house to help the lower and middle class?
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Old 07-19-2024, 08:37 PM   #16863
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It's weird to me that so many people put more emphasis on how Trump sounded, whether inclusive, combinative, and what not. I get that stuff matters, but the number one thing for judging a speech is whether the content was factual or not. Most of it wasn't, but that doesn't seem to matter to his supporters or even most of the media.
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Old 07-19-2024, 08:51 PM   #16864
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It is easy to see that Obama recovered the economy if you look at 2002 to 2016 and trump inherited that. When he was president, the stock market was the be all and end all.


He made tax cuts that timed our for the middle class. Let's not forget it was McCain who stopped medicare from being cancelled and replaced but a book of blank pages. They have already said they will kill it.


And if you think things will get cheaper when he comes in, gives tax cuts to the rich and donors, the applied tariffs to everything then I have a bridge to sell you. Inflation will be on the rise again. Insulin will go back up in price, medicare will again be repealed, then lets see how much the middle class loses.



The GOP have tried to kill any policy and under trump he is just for sale. Ill bet you 100 dollar donation to CP that when and if Trump takes office, inflation gets worse, but also while the middle class loses 1 other thing that is saving them money now.


Can you name what policies the GOP has implemented under trump or a bill submitted while they have controlled the house to help the lower and middle class?
Not really following? Was responding to 'recovery from what'. My response was the highest inflation in more than 40 years. I do not attribute the success of the American economy pre covid to Trump or his economic policy. I do not suggest Trump has any answer that will help the average American family recover from high inflation. I expect his economic policy would harm more than help them.
But it is nonesense to downplay the effect of inflation on the financial well being of Americans households in the last couple years.
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Not really following? Was responding to 'recovery from what'. My response was the highest inflation in more than 40 years. I do not attribute the success of the American economy pre covid to Trump or his economic policy. I do not suggest Trump has any answer that will help the average American family recover from high inflation. I expect his economic policy would harm more than help them.
But it is nonesense to downplay the effect of inflation on the financial well being of Americans households in the last couple years.
I know right? It’s almost like there might have been a worldwide event that was incredibly disruptive and caused governments to spend and print money causing worldwide inflation. I’m sure we’d have heard about that though.

But people will continue to punish the dems for it and vote for a party that will likely do nothing to make the situation better.
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Old 07-19-2024, 09:23 PM   #16866
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I know right? It’s almost like there might have been a worldwide event that was incredibly disruptive and caused governments to spend and print money causing worldwide inflation. I’m sure we’d have heard about that though.

But people will continue to punish the dems for it and vote for a party that will likely do nothing to make the situation better.
You're correct, but it's also important to remember that without COVID (and the subsequent mismanagement of it), Trump probably would have won in 2020. Early in the year before the shutdowns, he had the highest approval rating of his presidency, unemployment was at 3.5% and falling, real wages were rising quickly, and inflation was low. Democrats benefited from COVID in 2020, so it's not surprising that they could be hurt by its aftereffects 4 years later.
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You're correct, but it's also important to remember that without COVID (and the subsequent mismanagement of it), Trump probably would have won in 2020. Early in the year before the shutdowns, he had the highest approval rating of his presidency, unemployment was at 3.5% and falling, real wages were rising quickly, and inflation was low. Democrats benefited from COVID in 2020, so it's not surprising that they could be hurt by its aftereffects 4 years later.
So when things got tough the guy failed big time, but that’s not on him. Bleach injections? Not his fault. Undermining health officials and pandering to the lowest common denominator resulting in the highest amount of deaths the worldwide. Poor guy.
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So when things got tough the guy failed big time, but that’s not on him. Bleach injections? Not his fault. Undermining health officials and pandering to the lowest common denominator resulting in the highest amount of deaths the worldwide. Poor guy.

I'm not saying it's a smart way to look at it, but that's how voters approach things. They don't like high inflation, high interest rates, and fast rising shelter costs, so they vote the current guy out. Luckily for Biden and the Democrats, a lot of people dislike Trump, so they still have a chance to win.
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I'm not saying it's a smart way to look at it, but that's how voters approach things. They don't like high inflation, high interest rates, and fast rising shelter costs, so they vote the current guy out. Luckily for Biden and the Democrats, a lot of people dislike Trump, so they still have a chance to win.
I know, it’s just frustrating how brutal the dems are at really trying to inform people and deal with some solvable problems.
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Old 07-19-2024, 09:52 PM   #16870
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Reading Zary and Johnny have a battle of wits is nearly as rewarding as noticing someone named HateTrollFuzz is lurking the thread.

Worst timeline? You mean most entertaining timeline.
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You actually watched his speech? Hehe you seem like a fan. Your posts are completely useless. At least that poster tries to contribute. You do nothing but try to be funny but you're awful at that too. Can't wait until president Trump wins and you disappear faster than that E=NG poster after the oilers lost hehe.

Umm as far as useless posts go. This has to be up there lol. It is just another attack on a poster. with no content and and just a whiney 12 year old stamping his feet. you dont scare anyone, nobody cares man except for maybe me


You made me log into post because you want people dead, you have no understanding of life. Just a twitter troll



I'm not sure why you stalked my posts, or continue insulting Johnny and lie about watching the speech lol. It's obvious that you have.



I was with you in the threads where you were hoping for Edmonton too.


Might i suggest you take pride in something you have have done instead of wanting others to be in pain to make you feel better like an abusive husband, you're just a weak weak child.



There are no personal attacks on this forum, you should abide by that as I have. If it wasn't for the rule i would be temped to say how you are loser, possibly mentally ill, and obviously you aren't proud of yourself or you would talk and act like an adult and maybe call you a name



You keep wishing death on people but take the time to come into this thread with your hatred of yourself and if you think Johnny or anyone is like you, well then that's just ignorant.



Do you work? do you do anything at all other than embarrassing yourself with 50 stupid posts a day, like do you have friends or anything in life lol, leave the house.



How about we both make a 100 dollar donation to CP? I will do it if you will , then at least the mods get paid to read the #### that you call posts


Deal?


This board is a community and a privilege to be a part of, if you are too caught up with twitter to understand that, then maybe a lesson can be learned. You still aren't getting a thread, you just don't matter.





Let me and the board know. If you cant come up with 100 and maybe 20 is more your speed, it will at least help the board, otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time whining and attacking. And honestly, ill donate 200 to have you banned if you bring nothing of value here. Well 200 to have your posts watched a little more so you can be kicked out like the loser you are before others listen to your immaturity. it takes a lot of effort and energy to have kids So the forum would appreciate it i'm sure.



Put up or shut up, Daisy.



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Not really following? Was responding to 'recovery from what'. My response was the highest inflation in more than 40 years. I do not attribute the success of the American economy pre covid to Trump or his economic policy. I do not suggest Trump has any answer that will help the average American family recover from high inflation. I expect his economic policy would harm more than help them.
But it is nonesense to downplay the effect of inflation on the financial well being of Americans households in the last couple years.



Sorry man, maybe I misunderstood. I just think it will get worse with Trump as president.
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I agree that your list at the bottom is what people see in him. I also agree with others that it is mostly BS, exaggeration, and myth, but it’s hard to argue people away from these opinions. These are also issues that should directly impact people vs a lot of the negative stuff which is easier to wave away,
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You know what, I’m going to give you credit for bringing forth a post of substance and your opinions are not wild or out of this world.

Unfortunately I think thye are missing some reality
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First of all in your bottom part you give him credit for being an amazing business guy, but by all accounts it’s a house of cards. He’s bankrupted businesses and in many ways runs a shell game.
From someone who has started a few businesses and I'm sure others can attest, we all have failures. These failures are what help businesses eventually become successful.
I think this applies to life as well. We all make mistakes but we learn, grow, and become better versions of ourselves.

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Next is his treatment of women, a jury has found that he’s a rapist. Here’s more than enough evidence out there to reach a reasonable conclusion that he treats women as play toys, he paid off a porn star and it’s hard to say he didn’t didddle around with her.
I agree, he can be misogynistic which I don't condone. In regards to a jury saying he's guilt of raping, that's false. This is from the case of E. Jean Carroll, a writer who accused Trump of raping her in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape but rather liable for sexually abusing and defaming. It's still not good, but not rape.

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He has openly courted and coddled dictators, not much more I can say on that.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You can learn more about them, possibly predict their behaviors, and generally get inside their heads to know how they think. An enemy you understand is easier to defeat. There's also the possibility of turning them to your side, or at least you can develop a more cordial relationship with them over time.

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He refused and still refuses to admit losing an election, which has helped propagate so, so many people to further conspiracy theories.
Whether there was fraud or not, he may believe it due to the 2020 election irregularities. I'm not saying it's true, but I can see how one might believe it after watching this video.


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He attacks his opponents with an unheard of zeal - see Liz Cheney.
This stuff happens in politics from both sides. Problem is Trump is good at it. It's the game within the game, except its out there for everyone to hear. I think of it similar to hockey players trash talking each other to try and gain some advantage or to get in the opponents heads.
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OMG he is an election denier too lol
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OMG he is an election denier too lol
It's pretty sad if that that's all you got out of that whole post.
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It's pretty sad if that that's all you got out of that whole post.
It's pretty sad that you're still posting.
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From someone who has started a few businesses and I'm sure others can attest, we all have failures. These failures are what help businesses eventually become successful.
I think this applies to life as well. We all make mistakes but we learn, grow, and become better versions of ourselves.


I agree, he can be misogynistic which I don't condone. In regards to a jury saying he's guilt of raping, that's false. This is from the case of E. Jean Carroll, a writer who accused Trump of raping her in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s. The jury did not find Trump liable for rape but rather liable for sexually abusing and defaming. It's still not good, but not rape.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You can learn more about them, possibly predict their behaviors, and generally get inside their heads to know how they think. An enemy you understand is easier to defeat. There's also the possibility of turning them to your side, or at least you can develop a more cordial relationship with them over time.

Whether there was fraud or not, he may believe it due to the 2020 election irregularities. I'm not saying it's true, but I can see how one might believe it after watching this video.


This stuff happens in politics from both sides. Problem is Trump is good at it. It's the game within the game, except its out there for everyone to hear. I think of it similar to hockey players trash talking each other to try and gain some advantage or to get in the opponents heads.



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Hey Fire, while you are spamming, would you like to donate to CP with Zary? Or do you think your last ban took no effort. Maybe 50 each, you seem unhinged but maybe you have a job?


With what you post, 5 dollars a useless post, the effort for the first ban, I would think 50 would be a bargain for a month?
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It's pretty sad that you're still posting.
I get it; you don't like hearing anyone else's point of view, and you love to silence everyone who disagrees with you. You must love the sound of an echo chamber.
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