Major Water Main Break in Bowness Area

[powderjunkie]

Are we sure the treatment is better than the illness here? What is the marginal cost of treating/distributing extra water compared to repairing minor leaks?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Are we sure the treatment is better than the illness here? What is the marginal cost of treating/distributing extra water compared to repairing minor leaks?

Haven't we been warned for decades about the climate crisis, water shortage and all the other forms of environmental catastrophe? We need to be doing everything possible to correct these issues regardless of cost. Just slap an extra dihydrogen oxide tax on our utilities.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Haven't we been warned for decades about the climate crisis, water shortage and all the other forms of environmental catastrophe? We need to be doing everything possible to correct these issues regardless of cost. Just slap an extra dihydrogen oxide tax on our utilities.

How does this affect the water shortage?

Evaporation is the biggest way for water to artificially escape natural water cycles.

I'd love a hydrogeologist to weigh in on whether this does anything but dump water into the water table which finds its way back to the river systems anyway.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

It's worth noting however that BILD Calgary is a lobby group run by some of the worst possible people you could imagine (land developers and home builders) https://bildcr.com/about-us/2024-202...-of-directors/

I would assume their interest is less altruistic and more about getting that bag

Id like the poster to elaborate on this post. What a driveby

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Leondros

Would you say that strategy is working given that 3 years later water loss has increased and every year after that strategy was implemented reports have been flagging concerns on water loss?

No but we can call you a silly boy! LOLZ

[GullFoss]

I know this is won't ever come to be, but I'd love to see the mayor disclose the enmax reported water usage for her household over this period vs 2023. If her family materially reduced their water usage on a per person basis, I would 100% vote for her and withdraw much of my criticism of her leadership.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

No but we can call you a silly boy! LOLZ

Local MRA group wrap up their “Why we hate the Left and how you can cry about it online” session early?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Id like the poster to elaborate on this post. What a driveby

They are the worst people you can imagine because they are successful. Must be awful, awful people.

Some people are so narrow minded.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I know this is won't ever come to be, but I'd love to see the mayor disclose the enmax reported water usage for her household over this period vs 2023. If her family materially reduced their water usage on a per person basis, I would 100% vote for her and withdraw much of my criticism of her leadership.

Yeah, sure.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

How does this affect the water shortage?

Evaporation is the biggest way for water to artificially escape natural water cycles.

I'd love a hydrogeologist to weigh in on whether this does anything but dump water into the water table which finds its way back to the river systems anyway.

I agree with this to a certain extent, and think it's likely leaked water ends up back in the river eventually. I don't think it's much of an environmental issue. So the cost of fixing everything has to be weighed against upsizing the treatment plant/distribution system.

But I do think reliability is a factor as well. Something like this feeder main that can cause an issue for the whole city should either have a much higher maintenance standard OR get twinned so there is redundancy.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I agree with this to a certain extent, and think it's likely leaked water ends up back in the river eventually. I don't think it's much of an environmental issue. So the cost of fixing everything has to be weighed against upsizing the treatment plant/distribution system.

But I do think reliability is a factor as well. Something like this feeder main that can cause an issue for the whole city should either have a much higher maintenance standard OR get twinned so there is redundancy.

I’m not so sure it needs to be twinned. We just went through a significant crisis with this line with essentially no affect. We had sufficient redundancy to get by without meaningful cuts.

To me that’s a good mitigation plan and roughly the correct level of capitalization. Improving the diagnostic side to people to predict failures and to preventative maintenance in low use time periods is the only change I would make.

As for leaks I would think chasing down the low hanging fruit is probably worth it. Get us to average. Beyond that you are probably spending bad money

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GGG

I’m not so sure it needs to be twinned. We just went through a significant crisis with this line with essentially no affect. We had sufficient redundancy to get by without meaningful cuts.

To me that’s a good mitigation plan and roughly the correct level of capitalization. Improving the diagnostic side to people to predict failures and to preventative maintenance in low use time periods is the only change I would make.

As for leaks I would think chasing down the low hanging fruit is probably worth it. Get us to average. Beyond that you are probably spending bad money

It feels to me like they are doing the right things but just a couple of years too late. They had an inspection plan for this pipe, which if they would have implemented 2 years ago probably they find these issues and fix them in Oct.

And they have a main on the north side of Nose Hill Park connecting the NW and NE planned. Which if they had built it already would have added tons of redundancy to the system. While that's not really a twin per-se, it would provide many of the same benefits.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I agree with this to a certain extent, and think it's likely leaked water ends up back in the river eventually. I don't think it's much of an environmental issue. So the cost of fixing everything has to be weighed against upsizing the treatment plant/distribution system.

But I do think reliability is a factor as well. Something like this feeder main that can cause an issue for the whole city should either have a much higher maintenance standard OR get twinned so there is redundancy.

Originally Posted by GGG

I’m not so sure it needs to be twinned. We just went through a significant crisis with this line with essentially no affect. We had sufficient redundancy to get by without meaningful cuts.

To me that’s a good mitigation plan and roughly the correct level of capitalization. Improving the diagnostic side to people to predict failures and to preventative maintenance in low use time periods is the only change I would make.

As for leaks I would think chasing down the low hanging fruit is probably worth it. Get us to average. Beyond that you are probably spending bad money

Yeah, this is what I was getting.

Treated water leakage isn't a terrible thing.

It goes into the water table, its not wasted. Do you ultimately want less wastage - of course, if means less effort processing water overall.

But its not an urgent problem that needs to be fixed by spending lots of money on it.

It would probably be bad if there was 0% leakage, as you would probably deplete the water table, or have to spend money on some other method to maintain the water table.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I know this is won't ever come to be, but I'd love to see the mayor disclose the enmax reported water usage for her household over this period vs 2023. If her family materially reduced their water usage on a per person basis, I would 100% vote for her and withdraw much of my criticism of her leadership.

no you wouldnt

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Id like the poster to elaborate on this post. What a driveby

I did. You could try reading the thread.

[3thirty]

Moved to stage 2 now.

Can water lawn for one hour a week on certain days based on house number.

[Knut]

Sprinkler schedule
Individual unit or residences: Use the last digit of your house or unit number.
Multi-unit properties: Use the street address of your building.
Even number addresses (0,2,4,6,8)
For example: 32 31 Avenue S.W.

Up to one hour a week either Wednesday or Saturday

4 a.m. - 7 a.m.; or
9 a.m. - 11 a.m.; or
7 p.m. - 10 p.m.

Odd number addresses (1,3,5,7,9)
For example: 2355 22 Street N.W.

Up to one hour a week either Thursday or Sunday

4 a.m. - 7 a.m.; or
9 a.m. - 11 a.m.; or
7 p.m. - 10 p.m.

[BowRiverBruinsRule]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I know this is won't ever come to be, but I'd love to see the mayor disclose the enmax reported water usage for her household over this period vs 2023. If her family materially reduced their water usage on a per person basis, I would 100% vote for her and withdraw much of my criticism of her leadership.

OK. What a ridiculous post.

[getbak]

I bet the mayor waters her lawn on Monday, Tuesday, and Friday. That's why the rest of us can't water on those days!!!

Rabble rabble.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Yeah I'm in the same boat.

My yard is a bit hard, but I left the grass long and it is fine.

I have opted to masturbate before the shower which has been a delightful change of pace.

The people at the gym have found it less than delightful...