Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2024 - Round 9

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

He's the shiny new toy from development camp.

Isn't he a dusty old toy that stood out at development camp?

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I know I look at progression arcs for all players.

Stromgren likely has one of the steepest recent arcs of any Flames prospect.

From non prospect, to moving up the depth chart in the AHL, to looking like he jumped again in the summer camp.

He could stall out again, but he's on a good pace.

And he's a center, a center coming out of nowhere like Pospisil would be huge

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Is there something I am missing with Stromgren?

27 points in 68 games doesn't exactly scream top 10 prospect to me.

Last preseason he looked fine in a try out, but again not a guy i'd really feel to looking out for.

was he that good to end the season for the wranglers?

He got progressively better once he figured out North American ice and the Flames' system (he only had three points before new years and 24 after). And he looked pretty strong in the playoffs and really excelled in prospect camp.

There's a good chance he pops to close to a ppg player this year in the AHL and gets a taste of the NHL.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

Almost all of those points came in the final 30 games of the season, he had a huge uptick in production to end the season.

I'm more confused on Grushnikov. Not a big fan of his game, not sure why people think he is a top 10 prospect in the org.

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I think defensive defensemen creep under the radar for a lot of hockey fans (not saying you specifically).

great value in a guy that can play a 4-5 roll on your team and be a shut down and I think that's where he's heading.

Hoping he achieves Tanev status (arguably 2-3 defenseman), but 4-5 is a great trade result for the Flames.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Is there something I am missing with Stromgren?

27 points in 68 games doesn't exactly scream top 10 prospect to me.

Last preseason he looked fine in a try out, but again not a guy i'd really feel to looking out for.

was he that good to end the season for the wranglers?

Just 1 goal, and 3 points during his first 33 AHL games.

That's why looking simply at his hockeydb page and making assumptions about progression is so silly (as many are doing with Honzek and Morin). He had a phenomenal second half to the season. He's big, skates incredibly well, got those silky smooth hands, and has shown the ability to contribute in different roles. There is a ton to like about his projectability at the next level.

[cral12]

Etienne, you glorious ba$tard, you are up.

In all seriousness, pretty awesome as I strongly consider Stromgren, Crushnikov, here. Poirier, Battaglia, Mews, and then Suniev & Misa also garnering some consideration.

As adapted from Cali Panthers Fan - update fwiw...
italics = already selected

Blue Chip (No doubt NHLer with high likelihood of being a star player)
Parekh

A level (High likelihood of NHL career, possibility of being a star player)

• Wolf
• Coronato
• Gridin
• Honzek
• Brzustewicz

A- Level (high likelihood of NHL career and slightly lower possibility of being a star player)

• Basha
• Morin
• Stromgren

B+ level (high likelihood of NHL career but low possibility of being a star player)

• Pelletier
• Grushnikov
• Battaglia
• Mews
• Poirier
• Suniev
• Misa

B- level (possibility of NHL career but low possibility of being a star player)

• Jurmo
• Hurtig
• Kuznetsov
• Solovyov
• Zarubin
• Sergeev
• Yegorov
• Bell
• Klapka
• Lipinski
• Schwindt

C level (intriguing, but need to see more to pass judgement)

• Hoskin
• Jamieson
• Laing
• Morton
• Ignatjew

[Roof-Daddy]

Stromgrens size and skating made him a decent bet to become a solid depth NHLer, the sudden offensive production in the second half and the showcasing of skill and smarts gives me hope he's going to be a top 6 guy for us soon.

Still went with Morin this round but it's a toss up really.

Not a ton of love for Battaglia yet, 2nd rounder from this year with a strong second half push and he isn't even going to make the top 10.

And then there is still guys like Mews, Misa, Suniev, Poirier and Grushnikov on the board....

Prospect pool is getting ridonkulous.

Needs more high end C's though

[SuperMatt18]

Poirier should probably be here...he has already dominated the AHL offensively and if not for his freak injury last season likely would have played NHL games.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Stromgrens size and skating made him a decent bet to become a solid depth NHLer, the sudden offensive production in the second half and the showcasing of skill and smarts gives me hope he's going to be a top 6 guy for us soon.

Still went with Morin this round but it's a toss up really.

Not a ton of love for Battaglia yet, 2nd rounder from this year with a strong second half push and he isn't even going to make the top 10.

And then there is still guys like Mews, Misa, Suniev, Poirier and Grushnikov on the board....

Prospect pool is getting ridonkulous.

Needs more high end C's though

2025 draft FTW

[TheIronMaiden]

I for one put zero emphasis on development camp performances. I remember Tuulola dominated one once, and folks were super high on in. In the end it meant nothing.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

He's the shiny new toy from development camp.

That's unfair.

Last year was his first full season over here and one can very reasonably argue he used the first half of the season to get acclimatized. He finished strong, was a standout player in the playoffs for the Wranglers, and looked great at development camp.

I voted for him again.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Just 1 goal, and 3 points during his first 33 AHL games.

That's why looking simply at his hockeydb page and making assumptions about progression is so silly (as many are doing with Honzek and Morin). He had a phenomenal second half to the season. He's big, skates incredibly well, got those silky smooth hands, and has shown the ability to contribute in different roles. There is a ton to like about his projectability at the next level.

24 points in 35 games isn't all that impressive either.


Does Stromgren work the PK?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I for one put zero emphasis on development camp performances. I remember Tuulola dominated one once, and folks were super high on in. In the end it meant nothing.

Right ...

But the responses to your last post were a lot more in depth than "he looked good at development camp!"

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I for one put zero emphasis on development camp performances. I remember Tuulola dominated one once, and folks were super high on in. In the end it meant nothing.

And people would dump on him had he not dominated.

Looking top tier in the development camp was table stakes. He did what he was supposed to reinforce his trajectory.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Right ...

But the responses to your last post were a lot more in depth than "he looked good at development camp!"

I was just shouting that into the world more than responding to people.

I am happy that Strongmen is looking good, and appreciate everyone's input. These days its especially interesting because so many folks watch the wranglers.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

24 points in 35 games isn't all that impressive either.


Does Stromgren work the PK?

If he had that PPG total for the entire season he would have been the Wranglers Leading scorer.

[DuckSauce]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Stromgrens size and skating made him a decent bet to become a solid depth NHLer, the sudden offensive production in the second half and the showcasing of skill and smarts gives me hope he's going to be a top 6 guy for us soon.

Still went with Morin this round but it's a toss up really.

Not a ton of love for Battaglia yet, 2nd rounder from this year with a strong second half push and he isn't even going to make the top 10.

And then there is still guys like Mews, Misa, Suniev, Poirier and Grushnikov on the board....

Prospect pool is getting ridonkulous.

Needs more high end C's though

It’s a very fun time to be a fan. Imagine this pole this time next year!

My hope is Conroy can do to the Centre depth what he did with the defensive depth with the addition of a couple top 5 Centre picks from 2025 and 2026 (hoping Vegas falls apart with that unprotected pick).

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think defensive defensemen creep under the radar for a lot of hockey fans (not saying you specifically).

great value in a guy that can play a 4-5 roll on your team and be a shut down and I think that's where he's heading.

Hoping he achieves Tanev status (arguably 2-3 defenseman), but 4-5 is a great trade result for the Flames.

For me its an upside/likelihood thing with Grush, who was my pick. His game likely does not have top pairing upside but he's reasonably likely to be a good #4-5.

It's really hard to compare high upside, low probability with low upside, high probability. I think of it as a math equation and you multiply both percentages together and use the bigger number. Someone like Brust has #2-3D upside, but a pretty low likelihood of panning out because that game is so hard to translate to the NHL level. If his offensive game doesn't translate he's not likely to be a serviceable bottom pairing D - he's really a kind of boom or bust. So call it maybe 70% upside with a 20% probability, which is a 14% "rating". Grush is maybe 35% upside (bottom 3 D) but an 80% likelihood, which is a 28% "rating", so he would get my vote between those two.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by DJones

And he's a center, a center coming out of nowhere like Pospisil would be huge

He's a winger. And Pospisil may become a center but I think that one is TBD.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by DuckSauce

It’s a very fun time to be a fan. Imagine this pole this time next year!

My hope is Conroy can do to the Centre depth what he did with the defensive depth with the addition of a couple top 5 Centre picks from 2025 and 2026 (hoping Vegas falls apart with that unprotected pick).

Anyone feel the 2014/2015 prospect list was better than this list is going to be?

https://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2015...prospects.html

What's really interesting about this 2015 list is that it's actually pretty deep with NHL talent after the top five (four of them flopped), and outside of Bennett.