At the end of the day, that was a terrible location for a rally. It's most likely that the Secret Service, who scoped these places out ahead of time, briefed the Trump team on the facts, and it was rejected. There were not enough officers to cover the entire area, and here we are.
If you watch the video of the apparent officer who took the fatal shot, it is a pretty impressive setup for monitoring just a few hundred feet. When he does fire, he needs to bring down the angle of his weapon quite a bit, which suggests he was covering a perimeter beyond a few hundred feet.
Something caught his attention and he acted pretty quick.
To crib from Ron Funchess I can understand not believing all conspiracy theories but you don’t believe ANY conspiracy theories? You think the govt is just out here batting 1.000 and telling us the whole truth? Thats a strong stance to take.
I have two reasons for why i think basically any complicated conspiracy theory is not true.
1. People are crappy at keeping secrets and most conspiracy’s would take a lot of people to pull off successfully - I just don’t believe they would be kept secret.
2. This part is the one I always ask people who propose large conspiracies but also don’t like the government. It goes like this…do you have faith in the government to do their projects and tasks with efficiency and great execution - think of most government projects - do the go well? Inevitably the answer is no. So the second question is then - what makes you think the same government that can’t manage most things can pull off complicated conspiracies?
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Because it's part of the conspiracy. Government botching basic infrastructure projects makes you think they could never actually pull off 9/11 or killing Kennedy, but that's just the ruse.
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I don’t know if they all are but my grandma was. Had good days and bad. The good days were great. The bad days were terrible. Reminded me a lot of Biden and the issues he has.
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At the end of the day, that was a terrible location for a rally. It's most likely that the Secret Service, who scoped these places out ahead of time, briefed the Trump team on the facts, and it was rejected. There were not enough officers to cover the entire area, and here we are.
If you watch the video of the apparent officer who took the fatal shot, it is a pretty impressive setup for monitoring just a few hundred feet. When he does fire, he needs to bring down the angle of his weapon quite a bit, which suggests he was covering a perimeter beyond a few hundred feet.
Something caught his attention and he acted pretty quick.
I'm surprised they don't have drones in the air to surveil a larger area.
I have two reasons for why i think basically any complicated conspiracy theory is not true.
1. People are crappy at keeping secrets and most conspiracy’s would take a lot of people to pull off successfully - I just don’t believe they would be kept secret.
2. This part is the one I always ask people who propose large conspiracies but also don’t like the government. It goes like this…do you have faith in the government to do their projects and tasks with efficiency and great execution - think of most government projects - do the go well? Inevitably the answer is no. So the second question is then - what makes you think the same government that can’t manage most things can pull off complicated conspiracies?
Yeah, the larger the conspiracy, the more likely it will fall apart at some time. That is the thing about conspiracies in general though... they are not all equal in size and scope, but even small conspiracies can have large effects.
Essentially all planned crimes are some kind of conspiracy. One person conspiring, it's not that hard to get away with it. Two people, still pretty doable. At some point as it gets bigger, it will fall apart.
How big would a conspiracy have to be in this case? Would it need to be a big network of people in on it, or could 2 or 3 people with enough authority manipulate the situation? I could think of scenarios where under the right circumstances, a couple of people might be able to do it and just make it look like incompetence. You'd have to really fill in the gaps with made up information though.
Unless more information comes out, this was just another random attempt at murdering someone, just like what happens all the time. This one just happened to have bigger stage and back drop.
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It's pretty incredible that in the second or so that Trump turned his head, it saved his life. If he didn't, or turned back a second or two later he would've been catastrophic. I'm not comparing him to Hitler, but I've seen those documentaries where if there was one slight change, history would've been different on numerous occasions with Hitlers failed assassination attempts. This is as close as anything. Really crazy luck he turned.
At the end of the day, that was a terrible location for a rally. It's most likely that the Secret Service, who scoped these places out ahead of time, briefed the Trump team on the facts, and it was rejected. There were not enough officers to cover the entire area, and here we are.
If you watch the video of the apparent officer who took the fatal shot, it is a pretty impressive setup for monitoring just a few hundred feet. When he does fire, he needs to bring down the angle of his weapon quite a bit, which suggests he was covering a perimeter beyond a few hundred feet.
Something caught his attention and he acted pretty quick.
It's not like these Trump rallies are big one time events. In the heart of the campaigns, he's doing 2 a day in different states. The advance teams can only be but so thorough and the life of an ex president is not really the same national security importance as a current one.
I am not that excited to know my tax dollars are going to all this security for Trump's pre-election, in-presidency, pre-election, post-election, non-election, pre-election rallies that serve absolutely no value to the public.
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You posted about something that you fully admit to not understanding and something that you aren’t willing to learn about. So I think that makes you the fool.
As one can see while explicit messaging using the now hot button term DEI is going down it’s been replaced with new wording like diverse experiences, belonging and diverse perspectives. It’s just boiler plate lawsuit avoidance. Again if you understood what well run DEI was you would read articles like this and see DEI will still exist just under less offensive names.
You posted about something that you fully admit to not understanding and something that you aren’t willing to learn about. So I think that makes you the fool.
As one can see while explicit messaging using the now hot button term DEI is going down it’s been replaced with new wording like diverse experiences, belonging and diverse perspectives. It’s just boiler plate lawsuit avoidance. Again if you understood what well run DEI was you would read articles like this and see DEI will still exist just under less offensive names.
Weren't you the one to suggest we all just ignore Yoho? You're getting Yohoed you hoe (duh).
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As if the ineptitude couldn't get any worse, the warehouse was a staging area for local police with heavily armed officers inside, and one police officer checked the roof, has the shooter turn his rifle on him, and he lost his balance.
OK? Can you explain why a 20 year old American would be unable to vote?
Perhaps he's just very very very old and hasn't updated his information in decades.
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Amendment Twenty-six to the Constitution was ratified on July 1, 1971. It lowered the voting age for all Americans to eighteen years, having previously been twenty-one years for the longest time.
