Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-15-2024, 11:26 AM   #16241
devo22
Franchise Player
 
devo22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
Exp:
Default

just to highlight what a shameless and spineless loser J.D. Vance is, here's what he said about Trump a couple of years ago:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1812883453811253440
devo22 is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to devo22 For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 11:30 AM   #16242
calgarygeologist
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie View Post
So just from that link, in the last 100 years there have been 30.

4 Republicans, 1 'American Nazi', 5 unlisted, and 20 Democrats.
That James E Davis/Othniel Askew assassination is an interesting read.
calgarygeologist is online now  
Old 07-15-2024, 11:33 AM   #16243
#-3
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief View Post
The Republicans and Democrats kind of flipped sides somewhere in the 1800s. Republicans were the Lincoln freeing slaves back in the day. The civil rights act wss republican and the dems opposed it. So most of those twenty are right wing.
I think it was basically The Roosevelts. TR flipped the Reps in the 00s, then 30 years of two right wing options, followed by massive labor violence and a historically bad depression (because right wingers are good for the economy) then FDR had to flip the Dems in the to the left in reaction. because they needed some adults in the room.
#-3 is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 11:34 AM   #16244
powderjunkie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie View Post
So just from that link, in the last 100 years there have been 30.

4 Republicans, 1 'American Nazi', 5 unlisted, and 20 Democrats.
And with a further quick glance, 1 of those Republicans was caught in the crossfire on the attempt on a Democrat (Gafford).

In 1998 a Democratic state senator was killed by his opponent during/after a campaign.
powderjunkie is online now  
Old 07-15-2024, 11:38 AM   #16245
SportsJunky
Uncle Chester
 
SportsJunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick View Post
Wasn't there also an actual shooting at some outdoor event (for some reason, I want to say at a park, but that seems weird) where some congressmen were shot? I'm assuming those shot in the incident were also Democrat congressmen. I don't recall any incident where GOP congressmen have been targeted.
Steve Scalise(R) was shot at and wounded at an outdoor baseball practice in 2017.
SportsJunky is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 11:39 AM   #16246
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by #-3 View Post
I think it was basically The Roosevelts. TR flipped the Reps in the 00s, then 30 years of two right wing options, followed by massive labor violence and a historically bad depression (because right wingers are good for the economy) then FDR had to flip the Dems in the to the left in reaction. because they needed some adults in the room.
Accurate.

Here is a video that provides a general overview.

__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 11:43 AM   #16247
opendoor
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief View Post
The Republicans and Democrats kind of flipped sides somewhere in the 1800s. Republicans were the Lincoln freeing slaves back in the day. The civil rights act wss republican and the dems opposed it. So most of those twenty are right wing.
Sort of, but that's a bit simplistic. The assassination breakdown was from the last 100 years, so what happened in the 1800s is irrelevant. And they didn't switch sides so much, as there used to just be progressive and conservative wings in each party. The Civil Rights Act was a Democratic bill, but southern conservative Democrats opposed it (as did conservative Republicans) while the progressive wings and moderates in each party passed it.

And in terms of assassinations, I don't think anyone would call JFK, RFK, Harvey Milk, George Moscone, etc. "right wing". And of course, a lot of those aren't even necessarily political assassinations, so what party they're in isn't all that relevant.
opendoor is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 11:45 AM   #16248
Firebot
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure View Post
Obviously a lot more information will come out of exactly what happened once the investigation is done, but I think given the footage that has been released it sure doesn't look good for the Secret Service.

There are now videos coming out that are overlapped with Trump speaking and people videoing the shooter that show almost 2 min between people identifying the fact that there is a person with a gun on a building until the shot is made. I'm sorry, but if that actually is true, and the videos are not 100% verified, but that is major, major incompetence. At the very least, Trump should have been taken away. Plus the fact that there was literally a counter sniper team there, the shooter was within a few hundred yards, people were literally taking video of him, and there was zero response?

What a gong show.

Everyone can call it whatever they want, but absolutely brutal. Now makes you wonder about the protection of any high ranking US officials & past Presidents.


The videos are legit and can be synched as Trump's speech was present in the video showing the shooter on the roof. There was a full 2 minutes of time that elapsed from when he was on the roof and the first shot

We are all talking here that the shooter missed and grazed Trump's ear, but his target was completely dead on, only a quick turn to the right at the exact same second as the shot caused the shot to graze his ear. The shot as aimed would have hit the back of his head. The political situation would have been in complete turmoil.
Firebot is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Firebot For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 11:52 AM   #16249
GreenLantern2814
Franchise Player
 
GreenLantern2814's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Icon45

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache View Post
Wow the amount of people online who think this is staged hurts my brain.

Everything is a conspiracy these days.
Can you really blame people though?

Donald Trump has been calling everything fake and staged for eight years or more now.

Charlottesville, Covid, Russian collusion, Ukrainian shakedown,, the election results, January 6, on and on.

All fake.

Well, it worked - it worked so well his own assassination attempt lacks credibility.

This is bad.
GreenLantern2814 is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to GreenLantern2814 For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 11:55 AM   #16250
puffnstuff
Franchise Player
 
puffnstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22 View Post
just to highlight what a shameless and spineless loser J.D. Vance is, here's what he said about Trump a couple of years ago:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1812883453811253440
'Hey Mr Vance, if you wanna be VP just leave your spine with the coat check. Thanks, heres your claim check for it, but really, youll never need it.'
puffnstuff is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:01 PM   #16251
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22 View Post
just to highlight what a shameless and spineless loser J.D. Vance is, here's what he said about Trump a couple of years ago:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1812883453811253440
I don't know if it's irony or not, but the New York Times endorsed his book saying it was one of the most important books to read if you want to understand how the MAGA movement happened. So maybe that statement says as much about himself as it does how he thinks about Trump. Maybe he doesn't think being compared to Hitler is a bad thing.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:01 PM   #16252
DoubleK
Franchise Player
 
DoubleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
Exp:
Default

NM Fuzz beat me to it.
__________________
It's only game. Why you heff to be mad?
DoubleK is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:02 PM   #16253
undercoverbrother
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK View Post
Really??? Four US presidents have been assassinated and three others have been wounded. That is far greater than one in a million.

If this was such a rare occurrence it wouldn't have a Wikipedia page.
Curves2000.............
__________________
Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993

Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
undercoverbrother is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:03 PM   #16254
GreenLantern2814
Franchise Player
 
GreenLantern2814's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by #-3 View Post
I for one think it's hypocritical of all the people who cheered the assassination of Bin Laden to tell us that we should care someone tried to kill Trump. After years of using some of the most hateful and inflammatory rhetoric seen from an American politician in generations, publicly lying and embarrassing the country on an hourly bases, for him the be surprised that someone would value his death more than their life is completely unsurprising. I think this is firmly in the #### around and find out category of life, he and his supporters incited violence, and now they expect unity in the face of it.
If Trump had been killed, the consequences could have been rioting and violence across the country, and perhaps a descent into civil war.

To say nothing of the chances of further political violence now skyrocketing…

Cheering the death of Bin Laden, the man who orchestrated 9/11, is hardly the same thing.
GreenLantern2814 is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:09 PM   #16255
Red Potato Standing By
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

So secret service has a hard time protecting a former president, but some people think a teacher should be able to protect their students from an active shooter…lol
Red Potato Standing By is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Red Potato Standing By For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 12:23 PM   #16256
DoubleK
Franchise Player
 
DoubleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother View Post
Curves2000.............
It was discussed earlier, thus the edit.

Not sure why you are sticking your nose in it...
__________________
It's only game. Why you heff to be mad?
DoubleK is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:26 PM   #16257
puffnstuff
Franchise Player
 
puffnstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
Exp:
Default

Saw the suggestion that Dems should rename one or more of their current gun control bills something like 'The Anti Assasination of Trump Bill' to see what repubs would do.
puffnstuff is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to puffnstuff For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2024, 12:29 PM   #16258
timun
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

^Brilliant. Republicans are long past the point of giving a single solitary #### about being hypocrites, so it would just be adding to the pile of total-####ing-nonsense things Republicans have voted or not-voted for as the case may be, but it would be funny all the same.
timun is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:37 PM   #16259
opendoor
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

Biden's under-performance against Democratic Senate candidates in swing states is insane. From a poll released today; obviously these numbers may not be totally accurate, but they're from the same sample and the discrepancy is crazy:

AZ: Biden -7; Gallego +8 (15 pt swing)
MI: Biden -2; Slotkin +9 (11 pt swing)
NV: Biden -4; Rosen +9 (13 pt swing)
PA: Biden -3; Casey +12 (15 pt swing)
WI: Biden -5; Baldwin +7 (12 pt swing)
opendoor is offline  
Old 07-15-2024, 12:45 PM   #16260
Fuzz
Franchise Player
 
Fuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot View Post


The videos are legit and can be synched as Trump's speech was present in the video showing the shooter on the roof. There was a full 2 minutes of time that elapsed from when he was on the roof and the first shot

We are all talking here that the shooter missed and grazed Trump's ear, but his target was completely dead on, only a quick turn to the right at the exact same second as the shot caused the shot to graze his ear. The shot as aimed would have hit the back of his head. The political situation would have been in complete turmoil.
And now, instead of that timeline, we get this one. Which is peace and harmony? I'm not sure it matters, the US is so ####ed little events like assassinations barley register on the scale longer than a news cycle. Mass shootings happen daily. Gun violence IS America, it makes sense the leaders get shot at occasionally. This is what pure unrestricted freedom looks like. Want some?
Fuzz is online now  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:47 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy