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Old 07-14-2024, 02:14 PM   #16061
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I don't understand it either. Or registering as an independent. Why register at all then? Just be independent.
It's registering to vote, and declaring your party support is a part of that for some asinine reason. A "registered independent" is just someone who's registered to vote and declared "none" in their party affiliation.
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:16 PM   #16062
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I don't know what the future holds.

Perhaps the Democrats will be worried about the bump this could give Trump and replace Biden?

Perhaps US citizens will be worried about s bump and vote in droves for whomever is on the Democrat ticket?

Perhaps it will all be forgotten by November?

Perhaps this will put Trump over the top?

I don't know. None of us do.

What I truly can't believe about this, is the lack of security for a former President who is currently running for the position again. My cousin was attending Carnegie Mellon when Gore was running. VP Gore spoke across the street from my cousin's office. They had a containment tent so you couldn't see the car or anyone in a large section. There were snipers on every building.

Trump has no one watching a what 8-10 foot building 150m away? Makes no sense.
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:17 PM   #16063
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Yeah, I am absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, but it certainly does appear secret service totally dropped the ball here.
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But back to the topic, I actually suspect this was orchestrated by Don Jr.! If the MAGA party were forced to select a replacement, he would be first in line, with Kimberly as veep nominee to get the disillusioned Democrat crowd (she was married to Newsom so she'll clearly moderate the extremists!).

Am I doing this right?
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always look to who benefits in a crime, and in this case that's Putin and Russia
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:24 PM   #16066
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It's registering to vote, and declaring your party support is a part of that for some asinine reason. A "registered independent" is just someone who's registered to vote and declared "none" in their party affiliation.
It matters in states where they don’t have open primaries. The declaration in closed primary states determines which primary you can vote in.
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I don't understand it either. Or registering as an independent. Why register at all then? Just be independent.
To vote in many state primaries or caucuses you have to be registered with that party.
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100%

- does this make people sympathetic to Trump, that were not before?
- does this make people upset that the man who is a fire brand, and started this style of rhetoric need to be stopped?

No one know how it will be processed
Even in 2020 (historically high turnout), the voter turnout was 66.6%.

My worry is that an incident like this can help Trump tap into the third of the country that usually never pays attention to politics.
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:33 PM   #16069
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Yeah, I am absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, but it certainly does appear secret service totally dropped the ball here.
I don't see how the Director survives this debacle. For a country that prides itself on being the world's greatest military superpower this is a screw up of colossal proportions.
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:37 PM   #16070
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If Trump roles with the democrats tried to kill me angle I think this actually hurts him. It further enshrines he is not living in reality. The problem is that there are enough Americans who share this belief to win against an uninspired Biden candidicy.

He’s going to go full Qanon with this.
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Yeah, I am absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, but it certainly does appear secret service totally dropped the ball here.
Yeah, but Trump would be dead if they were in on it. Wouldn’t have gone with a 20 year old and AR15
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Old 07-14-2024, 02:55 PM   #16072
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Even in 2020 (historically high turnout), the voter turnout was 66.6%.

My worry is that an incident like this can help Trump tap into the third of the country that usually never pays attention to politics.
That's the thing.

There is a reason why Hollywood films with a patriotic themes always do well at the box office no matter how mediocre of bad the film really is. It pulls at the heart strings of many Americans and gets them off the couch. The images produced yesterday are likely to have a similar effect IMO. It doesn't matter how bad Trump is, surviving an assassination attempt will be portrayed as cool, and a lot of people just want to be with what is cool in that moment. It's not that hard to manipulate dumb people.

My hope is that with people's short attention span and how quickly the news cycles, that by November, the effect is diminished.
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This guy claims he tried pointing out the shooter to police for several minutes before the shooting started.

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I think MAGA may squander any possibility of a boost for Trump, many are blaming this on the fact that there are too many women secret service agents lol.
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I think MAGA may squander any possibility of a boost for Trump, many are blaming this on the fact that there are too many women secret service agents lol.
Oh that will play with some of them, trust me.
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Ya, and America and the world are going to get crushed by it.
Yup, it won’t be good.
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I think MAGA may squander any possibility of a boost for Trump, many are blaming this on the fact that there are too many women secret service agents lol.
The only female Secret Service agent I saw in the videos was the one that formed the shield.
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The only female Secret Service agent I saw in the videos was the one that formed the shield.
That’s because all the others were busy having their hair done.

Probably.
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Old 07-14-2024, 03:53 PM   #16079
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Even in 2020 (historically high turnout), the voter turnout was 66.6%.

My worry is that an incident like this can help Trump tap into the third of the country that usually never pays attention to politics.
Your worry is that more people vote? wtf.
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Old 07-14-2024, 04:09 PM   #16080
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That's the thing.

There is a reason why Hollywood films with a patriotic themes always do well at the box office no matter how mediocre of bad the film really is. It pulls at the heart strings of many Americans and gets them off the couch. The images produced yesterday are likely to have a similar effect IMO. It doesn't matter how bad Trump is, surviving an assassination attempt will be portrayed as cool, and a lot of people just want to be with what is cool in that moment. It's not that hard to manipulate dumb people.

My hope is that with people's short attention span and how quickly the news cycles, that by November, the effect is diminished.
I’m the furthest thing from MAGA that exists, but I have to give Trump this - Surviving an assassination attempt is pretty metal.
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