2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Detroit could be interested in Andersson or Weegar.

Petry + Kasper + 1st 2025 for one of them would be an interesting trade imo.

I can’t see Detroit giving up a prospect of Kasper’s calibre, and certainly not in addition to a first. Personally, I would do the deal straight up for Kasper, but I doubt Detroit would, despite Kasper’s struggles in the AHL this season. Just my opinion….

[Ped]

I assumed the 1st was for taking Petry; but the Wings have cap space, his cap hit is not high, and he only has 1 year left.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In 4-5 years 10.5 might look like 7 does now.

It won't, since the NHL and PA have agreed to increase the cap by no more than 5% per year. Once the CBA expires we may see a change in that formula – but new CBAs have never changed the cap formula in the players' favour, and I don't expect that to be different this time.

If the cap does goes up 5% per year for 5 years, then a $10.5 million cap hit in five years will be the same percentage of the cap as $8.23 million now. That's a little easier to swallow, but still a hell of a lot of money for any team to spend on a player who doesn't produce results.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

It won't, since the NHL and PA have agreed to increase the cap by no more than 5% per year. Once the CBA expires we may see a change in that formula – but new CBAs have never changed the cap formula in the players' favour, and I don't expect that to be different this time.

If the cap does goes up 5% per year for 5 years, then a $10.5 million cap hit in five years will be the same percentage of the cap as $8.23 million now. That's a little easier to swallow, but still a hell of a lot of money for any team to spend on a player who doesn't produce results.

I am no defender of Mr Huberdeau, but he actually produced quite well in the last half of the season. I believe PPG+ since January 2024.

He isn't worth his current contract, but he isnt completely void of value.

[dustygoon]

Mesar was the guy Montreal got with our 2022 1st rounder in the Toffoli trade. I hate trading 1st's, but it's nice consolation to see the other team wipeout when they use our pick.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I am no defender of Mr Huberdeau, but he actually produced quite well in the last half of the season. I believe PPG+ since January 2024.

He isn't worth his current contract, but he isnt completely void of value.

Oh, I agree.

I just don't see much likelihood that he will be worth his contract at any time during its term. Cap inflation won't be fast enough to make it good value for money.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Oh, I agree.

I just don't see much likelihood that he will be worth his contract at any time during its term. Cap inflation won't be fast enough to make it good value for money.

The risk in trading him is that it opens us up to sign another bad contract. But I don’t think it is possible to sign such a bullet proof bill your contract as Brad gave us.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Apparently MTL is trying to acquire McGroarty from WPG.

Mesar
Baron or Harris
early pick

Rejected by WPG is the rumor, but I feel like that's a fair offer?

Mesar has had a weird falling out in MTL after a very lackluster season.
Instead of taking some personal responsibility he came out in the media and blamed his teammates instead. He then most recently turned down Kent Hughes offer and suggestion he attend development camp this year.

A late-1st round draft selection declining to attend development camp two years after he was picked has got to be the most radioactive asset in the league.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

A late-1st round draft selection declining to attend development camp two years after he was picked has got to be the most radioactive asset in the league.

I actually can't think of many worse ways to passively sabotage yourself like that.

The caveat being that I can think of realistic situations where one might decline, like health problems, a family crisis, or some kind of life event like a parent or yourself getting married, or the birth of a child. But if it was just, nah, don't wanna do that this summer.... oof.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

A late-1st round draft selection declining to attend development camp two years after he was picked has got to be the most radioactive asset in the league.

Great! Let's pick him up for the Flames. We can coat him with fluorescent paint and hang him over the emergency exit at the new arena.

Oh, you were speaking figuratively? Darn. And it was such a fun idea!

[GioforPM]

Nm

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Oh, I agree.

I just don't see much likelihood that he will be worth his contract at any time during its term. Cap inflation won't be fast enough to make it good value for money.

I never said it would be good value. I said the increase will make it look less bad. Lots of teams have one. And they aren’t worth making a bad deal over.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

It won't, since the NHL and PA have agreed to increase the cap by no more than 5% per year. Once the CBA expires we may see a change in that formula – but new CBAs have never changed the cap formula in the players' favour, and I don't expect that to be different this time.

If the cap does goes up 5% per year for 5 years, then a $10.5 million cap hit in five years will be the same percentage of the cap as $8.23 million now. That's a little easier to swallow, but still a hell of a lot of money for any team to spend on a player who doesn't produce results.

They might not change the formula, but they could do a cap reset if the revenue's are much higher than the cap is.

There were reports that the current revenue suggests that the cap should already be $96 mil but it's $88 mil. If that gap widens, they may include the 5% clause still but do a bump at the time they sign the CBA.

Cap rising also increases the chances of new bad contracts being dished out. Stamkos just signed for $8 mil and is 34 and has poor 5 on 5 numbers. He got half his points on the PP....no more Kucherov and Point in Nashville. Won't happen now, but I could see Huberdeau being more valuable than Stamkos soon, maybe you work on a deal there and then flip Stamkos to a team and retain on his shorter term deal.

What would you say Huberdeau would get if he was a UFA right now? I bet he would still get $6 mil. He becomes tradeable if he plays a bit better and the cap increases each year. I can see it happening in the next 3 years.

[Freeway]

With the players so upset about escrow during the last CBA, I don't think there's much appetite to abandon the "lag formula" (what we have now). We may see minor tweaks, but I think this system will stick around for the foreseeable future.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They always come for something. I think contract length and reducing the players share is probably on the table.

I think the NBA and NFL is a 48% share for players.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They always come for something. I think contract length and reducing the players share is probably on the table.

I think the NBA and NFL is a 48% share for players.

Ya I think the owners would be fine with another lockout to get more money in their pockets. Hopefully it is a free buyout that the teams get at the end of it.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I can’t see Detroit giving up a prospect of Kasper’s calibre, and certainly not in addition to a first. Personally, I would do the deal straight up for Kasper, but I doubt Detroit would, despite Kasper’s struggles in the AHL this season. Just my opinion….

Although...some of the decisions Yzer-plan has been making recently...
And they do have some prospects of the same ilk in the system (maybe it's one of their other similar prospects they might be more inclined to have in a potential package)

In any event, interesting one to speculate on.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by cral12

Although...some of the decisions Yzer-plan has been making recently...
And they do have some prospects of the same ilk in the system (maybe it's one of their other similar prospects they might be more inclined to have in a potential package)

In any event, interesting one to speculate on.

Between Danielson, Berggren, and now MBN, I think they'd consider moving Kasper. He has had tepid success in the ahl so far, though seemed to improve through last season. Meanwhile, Andersson would make a perfect cost controlled partner for edvinsson for a couple of years, help him adapt.

[Sandman]

Well, if we could nab Kasper I would be extatic!

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I am no defender of Mr Huberdeau, but he actually produced quite well in the last half of the season. I believe PPG+ since January 2024.

He isn't worth his current contract, but he isnt completely void of value.

Who would have thought trading Lingholm for a cap dump would make Hubs better