Huberdeau on the Panthers winning the cup

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

lol what difference does that make? Translation is a thing...

Meaning and Intent are very difficult to translate. Translation is never 1-1

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I don't know, I think the #1C #1D and #1G are all more important players to the Panthers.

And even if you want to talk about wingers, Reinhart had 6 more points and 31 more goals than Tkachuk did.

Saying he is undoubtedly the Panthers 2nd most important players is just not true. There is certainly valid arguments to be made

Ask NHL GM's who they would take between the 2 of them and i dont think it is close, they pick MT all day. If you are going by stats only, then Hyman is better than almost every one in the league?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

C'mon. When the contract was signed Huberdeau was coming off 115 points (and well over PPG in the previous 3 seasons).

Would you havethought it crazy if Treliving had signed Gaudreau to the same contract?

Yes. I would have thought it was crazy. 29 year old wingers aren't worth 10.5 Million.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

lol what difference does that make? Translation is a thing...

Never thought about where the phrase “lost in translation” comes from, huh?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Ask NHL GM's who they would take between the 2 of them and i dont think it is close, they pick MT all day. If you are going by stats only, then Hyman is better than almost every one in the league?

In any event, I think Tkachuk is clearly behind Barkov and Bobrovsky in importance to the team. You can make an argument about Ekblad v. Tkachuk I think.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Ask NHL GM's who they would take between the 2 of them and i dont think it is close, they pick MT all day. If you are going by stats only, then Hyman is better than almost every one in the league?

I'm not the one speaking in absolutes.

It's certainly arguable between the two, and it's very likely that is just the argument to who is the 4th most important player on that team, never mind Tkachuk just straight up being #2 behind Barkov because someone here claims it to be.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Ask NHL GM's who they would take between the 2 of them and i dont think it is close, they pick MT all day. If you are going by stats only, then Hyman is better than almost every one in the league?

Yeah, the trade wasnt 1 for 1.

It was Tkachuk for Huderdeau, Weegar and a 1st.

The trade was fine. It was giving away the pick and signing the worst contract in the NHL that stinks.

[Locke]

So...torches and pitchforks?

I just fueled the torches and the pitchforks are freshly sharpened. When do we riot? I just have to get the scheduling in order.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tkachuk is the 2nd best player behind Barkov, and it isn't really close.

well I strongly disagree...again did you watch the SCF?
4 other Panthers go Conn Smythe Votes not Tkachuk

I am talking now...not talking age or contracts ect.

Bob was at worst the #2 or #3 reason they won the cup. Forsling might be a top 3 shut down D in the entire NHL. To say it's not even close is obvious bias. Bob turning from a 10M backup to a top 5 goalie was the biggest factor in their change of fortunes. Without that they are 1 or maybe 2 rounds deep at best.

Anyway it wasn't even a knock at Tkachuk I was showing how much depth they have. If Tkachuk stayed and the Flames won the cup he would have to be the Conn Smythe winner or at least in the convo. No 3 point 7 game series.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In any event, I think Tkachuk is clearly behind Barkov and Bobrovsky in importance to the team. You can make an argument about Ekblad v. Tkachuk I think.

Forsling...guy is a top shut down d in the entire league

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tkachuk is the 2nd best player behind Barkov, and it isn't really close.

With the hard-on the media has for McDavid it didn't really matter.

Frankly, they need a more reliable voter base and/or routine to make it more quantifiable.

Look at most of the Hockey media! Most of those guys dont know anything. It'd be more reliable if the players voted and even that would be sketchy as all hell.

If you're going to let every talking-head vote you might as well make it a fan vote. If its going to be an incompetent circus it may as well be a genuine Circus. Go for all 3 rings! Why half-ass it?

[Solstice]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

A casual interview in another language no less lol.

Literally. Some of you guys here seem to forget that it’s originally in French. And it’s crazy to me that there are barely any negative comments about him on Reddit, where on a Calgary Flames biased forum Huberdeau gets crucified. Sheesh.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What we would be stupid is him forgoing that kind of money to get out of Calgary.

In fact, I'd call him stupid for agreeing to cancel the contract.

[dino7c]

Barkov, Bob, Forsling, verhaeghe in that order got Conn Smythe Votes

Panthers are DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

Then you got Tkachuk, Bennett, all the other dmen....ect.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Solstice

Literally. Some of you guys here seem to forget that it’s originally in French. And it’s crazy to me that there are barely any negative comments about him on Reddit, where on a Calgary Flames biased forum Huberdeau gets crucified. Sheesh.

Oh yeah! That makes it better! Stupid Frenchie taking our good English money!! What else is new?

[Solstice]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh yeah! That makes it better! Stupid Frenchie taking our good English money!! What else is new?

Lmfao. My point about the interview being in French is it’s never a 1:1 direct translation to another language. Nuances aren’t translated 100%. So I’m saying to cut him some slack.

[Johnny Makarov]

I think he tries hard but this comment doesn't really hit. He was a team worst -29 last year. Him and Yegor both and they were out there to only produce points it seemed.

I thought I was going to produce points, that it would go well, but the more defensive game system didn’t help.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

So many Huby sympathizers still think the problem was everyone else, just like he does. The coach was the problem. The goalie was the problem. His teammates were the problem. The system is the problem. The front office drama was the problem. The vibe around the team was the problem. Everyone is the problem except for the guy whos getting $10.5m a year and playing like dog ####.

The worst part is that 2 years in, he's still blaming everything around him. It's a loser attitude.

He's on a bad team because he played so bad it forced the front office into a rebuild. There is literally no one on this forum that wouldn't give him away for future considerations to any team that would take him.

He's on a bad team because Treliving as a GM is a poor hockey mind. He was adding Huby's and Kadri's points together and thought he was getting close to replacing Guadreau and Tkachuk without taking into account what kind of player Huby is.

Conroy hit a HR with Sherengovich because he identified attributes that were misused in NJ and offered an different opportunity here. Treliving brining in Huby was contra to that taking into account Sutter was his coach and the Huby's game wasn't going to = 115 pts or PPG.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Solstice

Lmfao. My point about the interview being in French is it’s never a 1:1 direct translation to another language. Nuances aren’t translated 100%. So I’m saying to cut him some slack.

Dude...I know.

I'm fluent in French and read the French version. This is a nothing-burger.

Just a hockey-player saying hockey-player things. The only thing he left out was 'get pucks in deep.'

Yeah. He is under-performing especially in light of his contract. And yes, that sucks. But as far as a Flames fan is concerned? We aren't going to be any good during the duration of the contract anyways so...who cares?

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Locke

Dude...I know.

I'm fluent in French and read the French version. This is a nothing-burger

Ay Dios Mio!