Huberdeau on the Panthers winning the cup

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I really see nothing wrong with his comments. He’s 31 and his former team just won the cup and his new team is gutting the team. Of course it’s difficult.

We gutted the team primarily because of his horrific performance. Huberdeau would already be gone if he was worth anything.

Say what you want about the Monahan trade, and I'll probably agree, but at least Kadri lived up to his end of the bargain.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I don’t believe that’s what he meant when he said that. I read that more of “it’s up to me to get out of the funk”

Yes on a second read that makes way more sense.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

No problem with the comments but he is reason #1 the team has gone into a rebuild.
He can still be frustrated with that but needs to hold the responsibility as well. Good to see he's taking on the mentorship role to make the most of things.

The number 1 reason and the root cause of the rebuild is Treliving. Huberdeau is merely a bad symptom of all those bad decisions.

Huberdeau can improve and hopefully he does, whereas Treliving’s legacy is forever this mess.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

No issue with any of those comments. He’s being honest. And it’s fair.

He has had nothing but a great attitude since he’s been here and he knows what he signed up for

Other guys have come in and produced without him, so what's stopping him?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Yeah his ####ty contract, and telling me that Lindholm was going to score 50 because he would be feeding him the puck. He lied.

For whatever reason those two didn't click but I don't blame Huberdeau for that. I think when he signed the contract he really wanted to do well, but it seemed like a few players dropped off, and then you had the issues with Suttter, and stuff going on with management. I think therr were a lot of distractions that made things more difficult for everybody.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Florida realized Huberdeau was not a player you win a cup with and got rid of him

Flames should take a lesson in this type of team building - don’t fall in love with anyone .

They properly evaluated Huberdeau and managed to turn him into a true star player in MT

Florida is very good at bringing in the right players, they realize the same thing with Sam Bennett and Paul Reinhardt.

[Roof-Daddy]

Watch Huby have a dead cat bounce this year, put up 80+ points and help the Flames out of a top 10 draft position causing them to forfeit their 1st to MTL lol

Then the hate will really flow

[AFireInside]

nm double post.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Blaming the system doesn’t help his cause. First year it was Sutter and now that he’s gone it has to be something else. It’s painful watching this relationship where both the player and the team want out. Unfortunately the contract makes that virtually impossible.

He's a playmaker with no one to make plays to, the system and players he's surrounded by are a huge part of the issue.

Originally Posted by butterfly

We gutted the team primarily because of his horrific performance. Huberdeau would already be gone if he was worth anything.

Say what you want about the Monahan trade, and I'll probably agree, but at least Kadri lived up to his end of the bargain.

Kadri was easily one of it not the worst player his first year here. Then he got paired up with a good young player in Zary and started trying again. He hasn't lived up to anything.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

He's a playmaker with no one to make plays to, the system and players he's surrounded by are a huge part of the issue.

This is pretty much true. Huberdeau started to look less bad once he began to click with Sharangovich, and he seemed to mesh pretty well with Kuzmenko. He needs linemates who know what to do with the puck when he delivers it to them.

Kadri was easily one of it not the worst player his first year here.

Kadri was pretty good for the first half of his first season here. Then he hit a wall, for one reason or another, and was dead weight for the second half of the season. His second season was fine.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Is he allowed to say rebuilding ?

He said it in French. The only way he can get away with it

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

This is pretty much true. Huberdeau started to look less bad once he began to click with Sharangovich, and he seemed to mesh pretty well with Kuzmenko. He needs linemates who know what to do with the puck when he delivers it to them.



Kadri was pretty good for the first half of his first season here. Then he hit a wall, for one reason or another, and was dead weight for the second half of the season. His second season was fine.

In fact, Huberdeau was a lot better than the previous year except for the fact he had one miserable month of December (and like the rest of the team, he slumped badly to close out the season). If he could get rid of that slump next season he will be close to PPG.

[Erick Estrada]

I think one has to put themselves in his shoes. He was in the Hart trophy conversation on an up and coming Panthers team. Basically on top of the hockey world. A year later he's in Western Canada playing on a new team where he and Kadri are expected to replace the team's top two players in Tkachuk and Gaudreau playing under a grumpy coach that utilizes a totally different system than he had been accustomed to playing over his career. Both he and Kadri had issues finding chemistry with their new teammates, adapting to a new system, and his numbers have totally fallen off and as of today he's come full 180 back to where he started his career on a rebuilding team while his ex-teammates are drinking out of the Stanley Cup. Is there a single person here that would be happy if they were in his shoes? Even if he was an 80+ point player in Calgary the reality is that the Panthers would still be Stanley Cup champions and it's likely he's never going to get close to even playing in a Stanley Cup final so that dream, the dream of most NHL players is effectively dead for him.

I'm not going to feel overly sorry for a guy making $10.5 million dollars but I certainly wouldn't expect him to be happy about how his career has unfolded and I can understand his frustrations. The fact that he's talking about being 100% committed to his new role as a mentor at least indicates that he's a true pro accepting that he still has to put the work in and be a good influence rather than just taking the money, sulking, and going through the motions. The situation sucks for him, the team, and the fans but at least he's trying to make the best of it and I respect that.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

For whatever reason those two didn't click but I don't blame Huberdeau for that. I think when he signed the contract he really wanted to do well, but it seemed like a few players dropped off, and then you had the issues with Suttter, and stuff going on with management. I think therr were a lot of distractions that made things more difficult for everybody.

That season really was a complete #### show. You had a head coach that for whatever reason unravelled, a GM that couldn't wait to get out of town, and a major roster shuffle of Gaudreau/Tkachuk out and Huberdeau/Kadri in. As bad as things went, they could have still comfortably made the playoffs if Markstrom is even league average as has been noted in this thread.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That season really was a complete #### show. You had a head coach that for whatever reason unravelled, a GM that couldn't wait to get out of town, and a major roster shuffle of Gaudreau/Tkachuk out and Huberdeau/Kadri in. As bad as things went, they could have still comfortably made the playoffs if Markstrom is even league average as has been noted in this thread.

That was the worst coaching ever seen out of Sutter for some reason. And it was bad enough to make a guy known for effort like Kadri just mail it in by the end of the season. Sutter seemed pretty impatient with line combos that season, and Huberdeau wasn’t the only guy who struggled under him - look at Coleman’s year compared to last season, or Markstrom’s or Kadri’s.

[Roof-Daddy]

That 2022/23 season was mind boggling.

Between Markstrom going from Vezina finalist to .890 save %, Sutter apparently losing his goddamned mind and tearing the room to shreds, the Flames losing like 17 games in OT to only miss the playoffs by what...a point or two?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

That 2022/23 season was mind boggling.

Between Markstrom going from Vezina finalist to .890 save %, Sutter apparently losing his goddamned mind and tearing the room to shreds, the Flames losing like 17 games in OT to only miss the playoffs by what...a point or two?

The games were really weird. The Flames dominate for 5 minutes, not allowing a shot, and then they decide to give a breakaway or two on one to the opposition's best players. Markstrom was career worst bad, but the team didn’t help at all.

[Jiggy]

If the "defensive" system is hard to put up points why is he dog #### on the PP?

I thought Sutter was the issue?

I hope things work out cause he's not washed up, his game against the Bruins after the all star break showed the Hubey of old. It's still there, he needs to stop feeling sorry for himself.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

For whatever reason those two didn't click but I don't blame Huberdeau for that. I think when he signed the contract he really wanted to do well, but it seemed like a few players dropped off, and then you had the issues with Suttter, and stuff going on with management. I think therr were a lot of distractions that made things more difficult for everybody.

Yeah I would blame Lindholm for that problem more than anything. Dude didn’t show up when his buddies left.

[dustygoon]

Can’t remember seeing a player in more need of a mental coach. Not just from this translated article but from his overall performance, body language and commentary. Or maybe a fluffer. A fluffer could help.