Huberdeau on the Panthers winning the cup

[Manhattanboy]

Up to him to get out of the contract?

Flames would voluntarily let him out of it. No legal creativity required.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

1) blames the team around him and says "well they're rebuilding in Calgary and we don't have the talent." No #### we're rebuilding dumb ####. Your dog #### play forced Calgary into a rebuild.

2) blames the system

Before you hit the send button on posts like this it's probably a better idea to shut the laptop off and go for a walk or something.

He's a good player that hasn't worked out, yet, in Calgary. He's not a bad guy, he's not a jerk to the fans, he didn't run over your dog. He shouldn't evoke responses like yours.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Blaming the system doesn’t help his cause. First year it was Sutter and now that he’s gone it has to be something else. It’s painful watching this relationship where both the player and the team want out. Unfortunately the contract makes that virtually impossible.

Numerous players had career production years playing under Sutter. You just have to be committed to being a complete player, or you don't get the ice time. If wee little Johnny could do it, Huberdeau could have.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Up to him to get out of the contract?

Flames would voluntarily let him out of it. No legal creativity required.

I don’t believe that’s what he meant when he said that. I read that more of “it’s up to me to get out of the funk”

[Winsor_Pilates]

No problem with the comments but he is reason #1 the team has gone into a rebuild.
He can still be frustrated with that but needs to hold the responsibility as well. Good to see he's taking on the mentorship role to make the most of things.

[Rhett44]

This guy is the main reason we had to rebuild (along with Treliving).

We thought we were getting a star player, and instead we got an absolute bum of a hockey player.

[TheIronMaiden]

I'm not going to judge Huberdeau on one article. But I will judge him for signing the richest contract in franchise history and ####ting the bed.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Yeah his ####ty contract, and telling me that Lindholm was going to score 50 because he would be feeding him the puck. He lied.

Wow, he told you that personally!?! Now I can see why you're taking it personally.

All I remember is an interview where he said "Maybe he'll score 50 playing with me." He must have said that after he told you...

[868904]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Blaming the system doesn’t help his cause. First year it was Sutter and now that he’s gone it has to be something else. It’s painful watching this relationship where both the player and the team want out. Unfortunately the contract makes that virtually impossible.

Blaming the system shows a lack of accountability. Even in their worst seasons under Sutter, Gaudreau and Tkachuk both outperformed Huberdeau.

Plus the big thing he is missing is that the Panthers aren’t the same team as the one he left, they are a defensive juggernaut under Maurice. He should really look into HOW the Panthers won and commit to being able to produce while playing in a defensive system.

[DeluxeMoustache]

There have been analyses of Huberdeau’s game showing a lot of what worked for him in Florida, and how Calgary’s play did not give him the options that he was able to leverage. One example - Florida often had a D effectively being F4 on the rush and creating optionality

Honestly, there were a lot of zone entries where the Flames went in three parallel, giving the D one lane to cover. Basic stuff we coach kids not to do

As much as some want to #### on him, there is merit to the fact that Calgary system was jarringly different and stunningly ineffective

[nieuwy-89]

I kind of feel bad for him, it’s been a tough couple of seasons while his former team makes it to the SCF twice and wins it all. With a lot of credit given to the guy you were traded for. I could see that being really difficult, 8 figure salary or not.

[activeStick]

I wonder if it's a translation thing? Seems odd for a player to mention Florida having good linemates to surround Barkov with so specifically.

[InternationalVillager]

Nothing wrong with what he said.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Florida realized Huberdeau was not a player you win a cup with and got rid of him

Flames should take a lesson in this type of team building - don’t fall in love with anyone .

They properly evaluated Huberdeau and managed to turn him into a true star player in MT

Tkachuck is like their 5th best player..Bob turning from terrible to god mode turned them around more than anything else. I'm sure Huberdeau could have put up 3 points in the finals or whatever.

[TheScorpion]

The Huberdeau contract is the least of this team's worries. I'd posit that it'll help them more than it hurts them during their rebuild years. Ensures they'll always be dressing an inefficient (bad) lineup compared to their fellow tankers.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Up to him to get out of the contract?

Flames would voluntarily let him out of it. No legal creativity required.

Maybe lost in translation is he needs to play his way out of this. Not the contract but the hole he’s in.

[FlamesAddiction]

I don't really have any issues with anything he said, but I don't think he would bring up the fact he is untradeable with that contract if it wasn't something he wished was an option. He knows he is stuck and needs to make the most of it.

I still think he can play, but doesn't apply himself that well. There were brief instances last season where he looked better than the season before, but the disappearing acts were even more egregious as well.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

There have been analyses of Huberdeau’s game showing a lot of what worked for him in Florida, and how Calgary’s play did not give him the options that he was able to leverage. One example - Florida often had a D effectively being F4 on the rush and creating optionality

Honestly, there were a lot of zone entries where the Flames went in three parallel, giving the D one lane to cover. Basic stuff we coach kids not to do

As much as some want to #### on him, there is merit to the fact that Calgary system was jarringly different and stunningly ineffective

It's mind bottling that the Flames sign a guy for $10.5M AAV and actively choose not to utilize his strengths. Huska is not a good systems coach.




It's also hilarious that fans ask for personality and honesty from players, but then bash the players when they're honest and/or show personality. Nothing Huberdeau said was controversial and it's nice to hear something resembling an honest opinion on the situation.

[combustiblefuel]

I've tried to Stat out of most off-season topics but.. what the #### is wrong with some of you. Holy ####ing hell.... He signed because the Flames were a great team the just couldn't get it done and seemed one or 2 peices away .. not unlike the Florida panthers. He thought Lindholm was going to feed him and vice versa. Kadri was brought in at the same time after having an amazing playoffs off a cup win etc etc etc. Young guys were taking majour steps. Dude was becoming a hot player.

There was so many things going right a player that just off a historic record setting year thought he was the missing place. Instead Trelivings decisions had the chickens come home to roost , The coach was a dinosaur and chased off all the star players ( before you say Sutter didn't look ala Kadri) . When he signed that contract everything pointed just a slight tweak here and there. Not his fault they promoted Sutters assistant and everyone else decided to jump ship Midway through the season.

He was being honest. The team for 4 years was good. Really good. When a good team coming off a round 2 appearance offers you that money and the team sells you that you are the final peice you take it. Except the manager at that time was selling you on a dream that was because you had a Vezina caliber goalie along with the teams great results were because of arguably the best nhl 1st line in history.

He thought the depth and talent on the team was better than it actually was. No manager is going to say sure Tkachuk ,JG and Lindholm are just carrying us. The sold the depth. Eat bread disappeared, Dube was a rising player untill possible rape, etc etc.

I thinknyou all get what I mean . Calgary Flames pulled a Enron!

[Sec214]

Huberdough. Soft as #### and he left his hands in Florida.