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Old 07-06-2024, 06:15 PM   #12921
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Maybe Mckenna isn't one to speak out, She was a terrible environment minister. even worse in Infrastructure. She got caught lying, a lot.
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Old 07-06-2024, 07:02 PM   #12922
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Maybe Mckenna isn't one to speak out, She was a terrible environment minister. even worse in Infrastructure. She got caught lying, a lot.
She lost how much money?
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She lost how much money?

I remember off the top of my head the auditor generals report where her department had lost track of 9000 projects, and it added up to 10's of billions, there were also questions around a couple of million dollars in misallocated funds that went to travel expenses.
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Old 07-08-2024, 06:41 AM   #12924
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I remember off the top of my head the auditor generals report where her department had lost track of 9000 projects, and it added up to 10's of billions, there were also questions around a couple of million dollars in misallocated funds that went to travel expenses.
It still blows my mind how the government could lose track of billions worth of projects. Is the federal government still operating on the basis of paper filing cabinets and fax machines with no electronic backup?
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They didn't lose track. They sent it into their cronies bank accounts and then claimed they didn't know where it went.

Government 101.
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:19 AM   #12926
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They didn't lose track. They sent it into their cronies bank accounts and then claimed they didn't know where it went.

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Uh. With this Federal Government? I'm more inclined to believe this.

The most entitled group in a long time. Besides, remember how quickly they were inclined to throw the Public Service Office under the Bus during the last scandal?

If they'd 'lost track of it' they'd just do that again.

They know where it went. They just don't want us to know and hope we'll forget about it.
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:27 AM   #12927
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What in the history of this Liberal government gives people confidence in their intelligence to the point where it’s believable that they’ve secretly funnelled billions of dollars to their cronies without anybody knowing about, without any investigation recovering anything, and while having failed to do so secretly on much smaller amounts every, single, time they’ve tried it?
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:29 AM   #12928
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What in the history of this Liberal government gives people confidence in their intelligence to the point where it’s believable that they’ve secretly funnelled billions of dollars to their cronies without anybody knowing about, without any investigation recovering anything, and while having failed to do so secretly on much smaller amounts every, single, time they’ve tried it?
Your right. The liberals would #### that up too.
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Old 07-08-2024, 11:03 AM   #12929
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Your right. The liberals would #### that up too.
It’d be hard to argue against one of the few positives of this administration being that they get caught pretty much every time they try and pull shenanigans.

I always kinda chuckle when people ramble on about Trudeau being simultaneously both a complete moron and a political mastermind.
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It’d be hard to argue against one of the few positives of this administration being that they get caught pretty much every time they try and pull shenanigans.

I always kinda chuckle when people ramble on about Trudeau being simultaneously both a complete moron and a political mastermind.
Or they actually are masterminds and these are the screwups / ones they let get caught ! Like drug smuggling n
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Or they actually are masterminds and these are the screwups / ones they let get caught ! Like drug smuggling n
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[QUOTEIt’d be hard to argue against one of the few positives of this administration being that they get caught pretty much every time they try and pull shenanigans.

I always kinda chuckle when people ramble on about Trudeau being simultaneously both a complete moron and a political mastermind. ][/QUOTE]


Katie Telford is extremely smart, and well prepared and knows the levers of the system, Gerald Butts is very good at political strategies and running elections.


Both are the masters of the nasty campaign. Justin Trudeau the Prime Minister doesn't need to be a good PM, not a brilliant strategist. Not when he already pays for that.


I would argue that a lot of the stuff that's happening with the Liberal Party, in terms of scandals, getting caught in lies, programs that aren't well thought out and seem to fall a part, are the fault of Trudeau having a party run amok. With the last 10 years of the Liberals it is party first, Canada second, and it seems with quite a few Liberals its me first, Liberals second, canada third.
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It’d be hard to argue against one of the few positives of this administration being that they get caught pretty much every time they try and pull shenanigans.

I always kinda chuckle when people ramble on about Trudeau being simultaneously both a complete moron and a political mastermind.
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"Right-wing populism".
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"By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
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"Right-wing populism".
No worries, so long as the ones doing it are putting “Canada first” amirite?
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Old 07-08-2024, 06:19 PM   #12935
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Your right. The liberals would #### that up too.
Hanlon's razor is such a useful little thing. They are screwups not master minds.
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Depending on which specific scandal we are talkaing about I think most of the Covid money was just given out without verification that people or companies met the criteria and then they did a poor job of verification and recovery after the fact. Essentially they got 200 billion out the door and 30 billion may have been misallocated to non eligible people or companies.

So the failure is one of a lack of transparency and a lack of recovery rather than one of outright fraud. To me it’s the lack of recovery is the big failure. The giving out too much actually didn’t turn out that bad with only 15% being sent to people committing fraud.

This article appeared to have a good summary

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trudeau-...55570.amp.html
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Old 07-09-2024, 07:50 AM   #12937
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A 48-year-old man was arrested last week on two charges of criminal harassment after he was accused of stealing a Pride flag, burning it and — according to police — "screaming" anti-gay epithets.

The arrest demonstrates that "hate has no place in our community and our country and will not be tolerated," Ferreri said in a post on X, formerly Twitter, on Friday.
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Other social media responses to Ferreri called her "pathetic," a "fake Conservative," some accused her of being a "groomer" who holds "liberal, red tory values" and suggested police ignored other offences to go after this "woke, vote getting 'crime.'"

Another X user asked if Ferreri had ever considered "going to bat for the straight white people who voted you into office."
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"What politicians need to realize is that this is a very small minority in Canada — and they're being allowed to have an outsized voice and influence through social media," he said of anti-LGBTQ advocates.
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Will the Conservatives reject these supporters, or embrace them? Because this is what you get when you don't unequivocally stand for the rights of Canadians.
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Old 07-09-2024, 07:58 AM   #12938
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Justin Ling has the answer to that(and I'd encourage everyone to read the entire piece)...

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For a minute, Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre seemed to resist going down this road. Last year, I quizzed a high-ranking Conservative Member of Parliament about Poilievre’s intentions. Poilievre was never going to drape himself in a trans flag, the MP assured me, but he had no plans to embrace transphobic policies.

“They know (doing that would) fuel hatred,” that MP told me. They did it anyway.

Earlier this year, I asked Poilievre his position on banning healthcare for trans youth. He didn’t answer. Instead, he accused me of “spreading disinformation,” and of refusing to discuss the actual policies in question. (His handlers snatched the microphone away before I could respond.) He ranted that “Justin Trudeau has spread hatred against parents.”

A day later, Poilievre went even further than Smith, calling for a total ban on puberty blockers and hormones for those under 18. “I think we should protect children,” Poilievre told reporters. From whom, he didn’t say.
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The protest and revelry of Pride month is over. Now we need to take stock of why support for our community has plunged. To me, it’s no great mystery: Conservative politicians in this country, and around the world, have been attacking the LGBTQ community and they’ve radicalized their supporters in the process. We know what happens if this doesn’t stop. We’ve seen it before. Our rights get repealed. Anti-Queer violence climbs. Our hard-won progress bleeds away.
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https://www.thestar.com/opinion/cont...5f25bdb13.html

Conservative politicians, from New Brunswick to Ottawa to Saskatchewan to Alberta have made this worse, this year. They have responded to the rhetoric from the bleating insipid cowards and enacted policies harming this community, for votes. At least I hope they are only shallow enough to do it for votes, and not hate, too. Though I'm not sure they have earned any benefit of the doubt here. And yet, we are told we must not vote the Liberals. This is the alternative. I will not support this. Neither should you.
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The Conservative MP for the area spoke out against the crime and is now being lambasted for not being a "real Conservative."
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