07-06-2024, 12:47 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Almost all professional athletes are mercenaries. I mean, it’s kind of the job.
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No. They're not. They are almost all 'Heart & Soul' kind of people.
See: Backland, Mikael.
Its why they have Agents. Hockey players mostly just want to play hockey, but they need to be appropriately compensated. But once that compensation is agreed upon usually its just back to the business of playing hockey.
Some players will stay where they like to be and some will go wherever you pay them to go. They're still people.
The Tkachuks are different. They also have agents but they also understand the mechanisms of the sport. They have experience.
Like I said, Tkachuk was a pure Mercenary and if you want him to play for your team all you have to do is pay him. If you don't...he will leave for someone who will.
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07-06-2024, 12:50 PM
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#102
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2016
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A pure mercenary would not play for a contender. Why play playoff hockey in the summer for free and increase the chances of getting hurt?
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07-06-2024, 12:52 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuckDemon
A pure mercenary would not play for a contender. Why play playoff hockey in the summer for free and increase the chances of getting hurt?
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1. The Contender paid him to.
2. Its a low-tax Jurisdiction.
He's still coming out ahead.
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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07-06-2024, 12:55 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Shazam
You have to because you never know when your career will end.
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Which is why I have so much respect for Mathews. The way he bets on himself and structures his contracts? That guy's career earnings are going to be huge.
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07-06-2024, 01:15 PM
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#105
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First Line Centre
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Treliving was such a loser
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07-06-2024, 03:01 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Agree that Tre totally screwed the pooch with Tkachuk. But disagree Chucky would only go where he is paid the best. He wanted 5 or 6 years at what now would be a bargain after his elc and a chance to be captain of the Flames. When he realized the moron gm wasn't going to give him either he was out of here the earliest he could.
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07-06-2024, 03:22 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by chedder
Agree that Tre totally screwed the pooch with Tkachuk. But disagree Chucky would only go where he is paid the best. He wanted 5 or 6 years at what now would be a bargain after his elc and a chance to be captain of the Flames. When he realized the moron gm wasn't going to give him either he was out of here the earliest he could.
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The GM doesnt determine who the Captain of the team is.
He does determine how much people get paid and for how long.
Treliving was an idiot.
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07-06-2024, 04:47 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
The GM doesnt determine who the Captain of the team is.
He does determine how much people get paid and for how long.
Treliving was an idiot.
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Not true, the coach, the GM and ownership have a powwow to pick the captain.
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07-06-2024, 04:48 PM
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#109
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by PuckDemon
A pure mercenary would not play for a contender.
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For sure they do. Once you bring "cup winning experience" to the table, your future UFA contracts go up.
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07-06-2024, 05:03 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Not true, the coach, the GM and ownership have a powwow to pick the captain.
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I'll have to take your word for it.
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07-06-2024, 05:30 PM
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#111
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
The GM doesnt determine who the Captain of the team is.
He does determine how much people get paid and for how long.
Treliving was an idiot.
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Quit beating around the bush and just tell us what you really think of Treliving.
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07-06-2024, 05:35 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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Giordano needs to take some blame too for his crappy captaining in his last year here.
What happens after he leaves? Chucky puts up 104 points....
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07-06-2024, 05:39 PM
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#113
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Giordano needs to take some blame too for his crappy captaining in his last year here.
What happens after he leaves? Chucky puts up 104 points....
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I also got divorced after giordano left. What a terrible captain.
After backlund was named captain I had another kid with a new wife so named him Mikael...
Come on man that isn't connected at all.
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07-06-2024, 05:43 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache
I also got divorced after giordano left. What a terrible captain.
After backlund was named captain I had another kid with a new wife so named him Mikael...
Come on man that isn't connected at all.
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Did you even watch hockey then? haha The "captains" called out Tkachuk for his antics after the whistle and did not want to back him up. It was pure crap and I said Tkachuk would have a career year after Giold left.
Go search "Muzzin puck flip" on here... lol
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07-06-2024, 05:54 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Did you even watch hockey then? haha The "captains" called out Tkachuk for his antics after the whistle and did not want to back him up. It was pure crap and I said Tkachuk would have a career year after Giold left.
Go search "Muzzin puck flip" on here... lol
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Tkachuk was being ridiculous in that game.
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07-06-2024, 06:00 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Tkachuk was being ridiculous in that game.
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Sure but they abandoned him the rest of the season. Great captaining!
You also had idiots in here saying he lost it mentally, and that everything was living rent free in his head....
Yeah that didn't happen.
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07-06-2024, 06:03 PM
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#117
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Tkachuk was being ridiculous in that game.
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So what? It was four years ago, he was 22. It speaks volumes about the leadership at the time that they didn't rally around him. His antics lead him to back-to-back cup finals and a Cup win. Kid with that immense talent and you can't work with him instead of against him?
Tkachuk was back in Calgary last night at the Stampede, guy should've been a career Flames. Treliving is trash.
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07-06-2024, 06:05 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Like I said, Tkachuk was a pure Mercenary and if you want him to play for your team all you have to do is pay him. If you don't...he will leave for someone who will.
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And yet when he decided he didn’t want to play for Calgary anymore, he named 5 teams he would play for, not 20. Which suggests he had more criteria than just money.
He also signed an 8 year contract that’s looking like a deal already. If he was just about the cash he’d have signed a shorter deal.
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Originally Posted by fotze
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Last edited by CliffFletcher; 07-06-2024 at 06:08 PM.
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07-06-2024, 06:07 PM
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#119
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Has it been noted that the man himself was at Cowboys yesterday?
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07-06-2024, 06:07 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief
So what? It was four years ago, he was 22. It speaks volumes about the leadership at the time that they didn't rally around him. His antics lead him to back-to-back cup finals and a Cup win. Kid with that immense talent and you can't work with him instead of against him?
Tkachuk was back in Calgary last night at the Stampede, guy should've been a career Flames. Treliving is trash.
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Rally around him? The game was over and half of them were off the ice. He threw a tantrum because the team lost and he was made to look silly.
His “antics” have been toned down a lot. And he’s the better for it. Did he throw any tantrums in the last couple years? He used to let the opposition and media dictate his play. He’d get the better of a rival like Doughty one game but the next game the same guy would play supper hard and have the last laugh. He’s way better now.
Tkachuk was never going to be a career Flame. That’s pretty obvious.
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