2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by HitterD

Interesting take considering i know one of the family members quite well myself

lol who is right?

[topfiverecords]

We need a list of names and proof of their primary residence right now!

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Probably not but go back to look at the history of Flames 2nd round picks and Andersson is the only legit guy. Sure you have Dube, Kylington who made the league but neither is in the flames plan before they turn 27/28 years old.

Mason McDonald, Hunter Smith, Tyler Parsons, William. Strogmen, Toppi Ronni. Trade any of those guys for Holloway. Might say the same about Basha but too early to say

I suppose one could argue separately how far above 'replacement' level either player was, but for sure their reasons for being out of the team plans are both far from garden variety


(not necessarily disputing your broader point about the value of a 2nd round pick) but as pure hockey draft selections I think personally they 'hit' on those 2 players

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The Flames outright can’t do an offer sheet with a 1st round compensation.

The idea though is that if an offer sheet that has a compensation of a 2nd round pick is successful, you put yourself at risk of:

1. You improve the immediate roster which will have a negative impact on the Calgary Flames own 2025 1st round pick. That 2025 1st round draft pick is the single most important asset that the Calgary Flames own with how their roster is currently constructed. The goal is to make that a top-5 pick.
2. You acquire an Oilers player, which is disgusting
3. Even if it’s successful, it likely just bumps our drafting position a spot or two (best case scenario), which then also means you just gave the Oilers a high quality 2nd round pick, which is bad

You risk that just to potentially spite the Oilers? Hell no.

Conroy has said how important the draft is. You know what teams didn’t go out and do stupid offer sheets at this stage? Colorado, Tampa, Chicago, LA, Florida, St. Louis, Vegas. You know why? It’s because that’s Not how you build a winner.

A good reason why we need to be patient:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1809275051746947218

Conroy and company need more picks, not less. Targeting recent Oiler draft picks is not the right path, largely because their players aren’t good enough to justify it in the first place.

No team since the start of the salary cap era has had more than 3 consecutive seasons below 70 points or 70 point pace. Some of the more successful rebuilds, those teams have gone up and down the standings through the rebuild.

Colorado - finished bottom 3 2011, 2013 and 2017 but were above 82 points in the season between drafting high

Florida - finished bottom 3 4 times in 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014 but made the playoffs in 2012

Tampa - finished bottom 3, 3 times in 2008, 2009, 2013 but had 80,84 and 103 points in between bottom 3 finishes

Edmonton, Florida, Buffalo and Arizona have been bottom 3 the most. Buffalo is the only team to be dead last more than twice...4 times and they just never dig themselves out of that hole. There is risk taking it too far too.

We don't need to be SJ bad to get a couple top 3 picks in the next few years.

[TheIronMaiden]

I am going to need both of your SIN numbers who know who is correct here.

[Wood]

Oilers trading McLeod for Matt Savoie from Buffalo

#9 overall just 2 years ago. Has to be more to th deal, that's a steal for Edmonton

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Wood

Oilers trading McLeod for Matt Savoie from Buffalo

#9 overall just 2 years ago. Has to be more to th deal, that's a steal for Edmonton

Buffalo is drunk lol. Seems like a huge overpay

[Ba'alzamon]

Yeah, that's a weird one.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

I know for a fact this isn't true.

I know for a fact it is. I live 30 minutes from London and there was lots of talk about a lot of his relatives following him to Calgary. So I know for a fact that's once again you are talking out of your ass as usual.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Fight fight fight!!!

He is full of ####. Like everything he posts. This is what is going to happen throughout the summer with him and BigThief coming back as suspended members back in March. They will gum up the boards with ####ty posts, mistruths, and stupidity. Anyone can use a VPN and make another account, when we all know they are returning posters they should be put back out to pasture.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

We need a list of names and proof of their primary residence right now!

and social insurance numbers

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

I know for a fact this isn't true.

Kadri’s cousin was my barber for the first ten years I lived in Calgary, so it’s at least a little true.

[Ozy_Flame]

Would it really be that surprising? Everyone is considering or moving to Alberta anyway, so having your cousin or nephew move too is just icing on the cake.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Kadri’s cousin was my barber for the first ten years I lived in Calgary, so it’s at least a little true.

You must be lying, Kadri has no relatives in Calgary, they are not related. Ask Zary's Moustache he already said so.

[Yeah_Baby]

Hey, all Kadris:

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The Flames outright can’t do an offer sheet with a 1st round compensation.

The idea though is that if an offer sheet that has a compensation of a 2nd round pick is successful, you put yourself at risk of:

1. You improve the immediate roster which will have a negative impact on the Calgary Flames own 2025 1st round pick. That 2025 1st round draft pick is the single most important asset that the Calgary Flames own with how their roster is currently constructed. The goal is to make that a top-5 pick.
2. You acquire an Oilers player, which is disgusting
3. Even if it’s successful, it likely just bumps our drafting position a spot or two (best case scenario), which then also means you just gave the Oilers a high quality 2nd round pick, which is bad

You risk that just to potentially spite the Oilers? Hell no.

Conroy has said how important the draft is. You know what teams didn’t go out and do stupid offer sheets at this stage? Colorado, Tampa, Chicago, LA, Florida, St. Louis, Vegas. You know why? It’s because that’s Not how you build a winner.

A good reason why we need to be patient:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1809275051746947218

Conroy and company need more picks, not less. Targeting recent Oiler draft picks is not the right path, largely because their players aren’t good enough to justify it in the first place.

The ridiculously stupid Savoie trade probably moves Buffalo down, and Calgary into, the top 10.

[dissentowner]

He had a lot of family at the SC parade when he brought the Cup back to London. There was a lot of chatter about how the Kadri's already had a lot of family already out there and there was more heading out there from London now that he had signed a long term deal with the Flames. It was a definite buzz around that day.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I am going to need both of your SIN numbers who know who is correct here.

I know you didn't ask me, but I can give you my SIN number:

2.

What can I say? I'm older than ####.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

No team since the start of the salary cap era has had more than 3 consecutive seasons below 70 points or 70 point pace. Some of the more successful rebuilds, those teams have gone up and down the standings through the rebuild.

Colorado - finished bottom 3 2011, 2013 and 2017 but were above 82 points in the season between drafting high

Florida - finished bottom 3 4 times in 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014 but made the playoffs in 2012

Tampa - finished bottom 3, 3 times in 2008, 2009, 2013 but had 80,84 and 103 points in between bottom 3 finishes

Edmonton, Florida, Buffalo and Arizona have been bottom 3 the most. Buffalo is the only team to be dead last more than twice...4 times and they just never dig themselves out of that hole. There is risk taking it too far too.

We don't need to be SJ bad to get a couple top 3 picks in the next few years.

I agree.

But you still need those top 3 picks in 2 years.

For the Flames, hopefully that’s 2025 and 2026.

don’t #%^* that up by signing a stupid Oiler player to an offer sheet.

[Monahammer]

We should try to acquire Owen Power