[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[cam_wmh]

Man there's some hot takes in this thread.

Olly could be looking at it, from a place where he had a solid defense partner in Tanev, whom helped elevate his play, and cover his deficiencies.

So, in addition to a (show-me) contract, is also looking at an opportunity for a similar partner to ensure his next contract is richest.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The vocal minority who filled the Saddledome and gave him a huge standing ovation when he came back.

Chill out with the edgelord stuff. Pretending he’s wasn’t/isn’t a fan favourite is completely silly.

ANYONE who comes back from an absence gets cheered. That's the human thing to do. I couldn't stand when Steve Smith was the Flames captain in the late 90s, but would've cheered his return IF he was able to come back from that career-ending neck injury. Doesn't make him a fan favourite.

He was a fringe NHLer prior to the mental health sabbatical, and he's a fringe NHLer now. He's played 201 games, and racked up a whopping 55pts over that time. Whoopdeedooooo.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

ANYONE who comes back from an absence gets cheered. That's the human thing to do. I couldn't stand when Steve Smith was the Flames captain in the late 90s, but would've cheered his return IF he was able to come back from that career-ending neck injury. Doesn't make him a fan favourite.

He was a fringe NHLer prior to the mental health sabbatical, and he's a fringe NHLer now. He's played 201 games, and racked up a whopping 55pts over that time. Whoopdeedooooo.

Yikes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

How could you possibly know that?

You dont think I know someone in a worse situation than a guy who made 4M to not play hockey lol.

I'm not suggesting his issues arent real but I know people in a lot worse spot and I will save my sadness for them. Take a walk downtown if you want sadness.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

I must be mistaken, but is it true the flames didn’t need to pay him? Isn’t this treated essentially like an injury?

That was based on what the BB boys were talking about. I suppose that could be incorrect.

From all that I can gather Oliver Kylington was never officially placed in the player assistance program. The only statement we got from the Flames is that he was given "leave" to focus on his mental health. We do know however (from Conroy) was that Oliver was seriously contemplating whether or not he wanted to play hockey professionally moving forward. The Flames gave him the time to do that. It's a tricky situation, and yes, we don't know all the facts.

All I am saying is that IF he turned down a fair offer (which has been strongly hinted at), I can certainly understand how some bridges were burned within the organization given the circumstances.

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Yikes.

Literally the proper use of the term.

"A mental health sabbatical is a period of time away from work that can help improve mental health. Sabbaticals can help reduce stress, anxiety, depression, and burnout, and can lead to a healthier, happier lifestyle. They can also provide space for self-discovery and clarity."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjami...er-and-health/

[Buff]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You dont think I know someone in a worse situation than a guy who made 4M to not play hockey lol.

I'm not suggesting his issues arent real but I know people in a lot worse spot and I will save my sadness for them. Take a walk downtown if you want sadness.

Why do people need to always have it worse or know someone who has it worse? You're just participating in a giant internet dick measuring contest, except it has nothing to do with you.

Kylington has/had it bad. The person you know has it bad. Why does one have to have it worse than the other? Why do we have to make such pointless comparisons?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

Literally the proper use of the term.

"A mental health sabbatical is a period of time away from work that can help improve mental health. Sabbaticals can help reduce stress, anxiety, depression, and burnout, and can lead to a healthier, happier lifestyle. They can also provide space for self-discovery and clarity."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjami...er-and-health/

Literally, not even clsoe.

Sabbatical: a voluntary absence from work.

Disability leave: a non-voluntary absence from work caused by disability-related restrictions.

Have you ever heard anyone say "Hey Karen, hope you have a great cancer sabbatical!"?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Literally, not even clsoe.

Sabbatical: a voluntary absence from work.

Disability leave: a non-voluntary absence from work caused by disability-related restrictions.

Have you ever heard anyone say "Hey Karen, hope you have a great cancer sabbatical!"?

Wow that last line made me literally laugh out loud. Bravo.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Buff

Why do people need to always have it worse or know someone who has it worse? You're just participating in a giant internet dick measuring contest, except it has nothing to do with you.

Kylington has/had it bad. The person you know has it bad. Why does one have to have it worse than the other? Why do we have to make such pointless comparisons?

It's not a competition but there's only so much sympathy and empathy to go around. Someone earning millions of dollars and being pampered 24/7 for playing a sport usually won't garner a lot of that sympathy.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

It's not a competition but there's only so much sympathy and empathy to go around. Someone earning millions of dollars and being pampered 24/7 for playing a sport usually won't garner a lot of that sympathy.

Most people don’t have an empathy bank. I’m able to have empathy for Kylington without worrying that I’m not going to have empathy left for unhoused people downtown.

You guys sure struggle with the basics of being a person, huh?

[Housley4Prez]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Literally, not even clsoe.

Sabbatical: a voluntary absence from work.

Disability leave: a non-voluntary absence from work caused by disability-related restrictions.

Have you ever heard anyone say "Hey Karen, hope you have a great cancer sabbatical!"?

He signed a 2-year deal on August 2, 2022, then 50 days later (after plastering his Instagram with photos of him yachting in speedos with friends in the Mediterranean all summer) informs the team he isn't showing up for camp on September 23, 2022.

He VOLUNTARILY chose to take the time off. He wasn't forced to deal with the betrayal of a friendship. So yes, it was a mental health sabbatical. He didn't have cancer.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

He VOLUNTARILY chose to take the time off. He wasn't forced to deal with the betrayal of a friendship. So yes, it was a mental health sabbatical. He didn't have cancer.

He didn't voluntarily choose to have mental health issues. Take a breather from this thread

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

He signed a 2-year deal on August 2, 2022, then 50 days later (after plastering his Instagram with photos of him yachting in speedos with friends in the Mediterranean all summer) informs the team he isn't showing up for camp on September 23, 2022.

He VOLUNTARILY chose to take the time off. He wasn't forced to deal with the betrayal of a friendship. So yes, it was a mental health sabbatical. He didn't have cancer.

Dig up, stupid

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Most people don’t have an empathy bank. I’m able to have empathy for Kylington without worrying that I’m not going to have empathy left for unhoused people downtown.

You guys sure struggle with the basics of being a person, huh?

What's it like be amazing?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You dont think I know someone in a worse situation than a guy who made 4M to not play hockey lol.

I'm not suggesting his issues arent real but I know people in a lot worse spot and I will save my sadness for them. Take a walk downtown if you want sadness.

You have no idea what the situation is.

Income isn’t the be all when it comes to mental health.

No one is asking for sadness. I think a dose of empathy and yielding judgment with so many unknowns would be a good idea though.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Housley4Prez

He signed a 2-year deal on August 2, 2022, then 50 days later (after plastering his Instagram with photos of him yachting in speedos with friends in the Mediterranean all summer) informs the team he isn't showing up for camp on September 23, 2022.

He VOLUNTARILY chose to take the time off. He wasn't forced to deal with the betrayal of a friendship. So yes, it was a mental health sabbatical. He didn't have cancer.

I don't know why I waste my time...

You simply have zero idea whether or not he voluntarily chose to "take the time off". Typing "voluntarily" in all caps does not change that fact (indeed, it only draws more attention to it).

Granted, I don't know anything for certain either. But the statements of both Kylington and the Flames suggests that it was involuntary. And that is certainly the more plausible explanation for a person who has dedicated their entire life to reaching the NHL to, months after finally achieving that life-long goal, risks it all by leaving his team for a year-and-a-half.

But whatever man. You do you. I am VOLUNTARILY deciding not to waste any more time arguing with you. I'm taking a Housley4Prez sabbatical!

[Wastedyouth]

My goodness, close this thread down.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

You have no idea what the situation is.

Income isn’t the be all when it comes to mental health.

No one is asking for sadness. I think a dose of empathy and yielding judgment with so many unknowns would be a good idea though.

For one I never said it was but in this case its the player asking for more money and also you kinda took me out of context. My original post was responding to someone saying how sad the situation is.

Guy is good at hockey and has mental health issues so is above all critisism?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

My goodness, close this thread down.

You clicked on it and bumped it