07-02-2024, 11:23 PM
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#121
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#1 Goaltender
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Seeing all these signings of older players into their late 30s makes me think all these teams just plan to LTIR-retire these players. For example, anyone can see that tanev’s deal is way too long but it really doesn’t matter… if he starts to decline, he’ll get played less or even become a healthy scratch eventually. By that point, the player likely no longer wants to play and chooses LTIR retirement. Team gets cap relief. They got the player they wanted for 2-3 years and his cap hit is dropped for the remaining years of the deal.
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07-03-2024, 12:05 AM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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LTIR doesn't actually let you drop a player's cap hit. It just lets you go over the cap, and then you don't accrue any cap at all during the season. That means no money left for acquisitions at the trade deadline.
I think GMs expect these players to be able to play for the full duration of their contracts; just not to be worth the money. If they turn out to be wrong, it's easier just to buy out the last year or two and not have to worry about the complexities of LTIR.
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07-03-2024, 02:12 PM
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#123
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Yeah I have a sneaking suspicion that Mantha will be a healthy scratch by Christmas
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He might also realize that this could be the end of the line if he doesn’t give maximum effort. We can hope.
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07-03-2024, 02:36 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
He might also realize that this could be the end of the line if he doesn’t give maximum effort. We can hope.
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That's my thinking as well. Mantha chose to sign with the Flames because of the opportunity to play higher in the lineup. He looks to boost his numbers, and also see if there's a long term fit in CGY.
I also have a hard time with people suggesting an NHLer doesn't put in the effort. If someone doesn't put in the effort then he gets replaced by a prospect that does, and soon finds his way out of the league. Teammates, coaches, and good leadership groups keep eachother accountable.
We'll see how he fits, but it's a good no risk add. One you can trade at the deadline for more assets.
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07-03-2024, 02:39 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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He sure has shiny metrics for a player who doesn’t put in much effort.
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07-03-2024, 03:20 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
He sure has shiny metrics for a player who doesn’t put in much effort.
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Part of why he is a frustrating player. One of those guys who can look like a 1st line and 4th line player in the same game.
Reminds me, I wonder if Ruzicka will find a home in the NHL again.
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07-04-2024, 09:54 AM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I don't think the Flames should go after any of these players but there are some interesting names still out there
Pavelski and Sprong would both be great additions to any team.
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07-04-2024, 10:06 AM
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#129
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Bingo's Official Offspring Yes My Dad Knows I'm Here
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Part of why he is a frustrating player. One of those guys who can look like a 1st line and 4th line player in the same game.
Reminds me, I wonder if Ruzicka will find a home in the NHL again.
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Have to think Ruzicka is toast after that video he uploaded last year
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07-04-2024, 10:10 AM
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#130
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I don't think the Flames should go after any of these players but there are some interesting names still out there
Pavelski and Sprong would both be great additions to any team.
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Could be wrong but I believe Pavelski has more or less announced he was likely headed to retirement.
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07-04-2024, 11:45 AM
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#131
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First Line Centre
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Yes, Pavelski is done.
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07-04-2024, 01:02 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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He hasn't filed the papers but he has announced his retirement.
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07-04-2024, 01:06 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Yeah I have a sneaking suspicion that Mantha will be a healthy scratch by Christmas
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The complaint about Mantha are mainly because he's big and people think he should be more a wrecking ball out there. He's basically a rich man's Nick Ritchie or Alex Chaisson.
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07-07-2024, 04:48 PM
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#134
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.
Have to think Ruzicka is toast after that video he uploaded last year 
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What's this now? What video?
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07-07-2024, 05:03 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThisIsAnOutrage
What's this now? What video?
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The video of him showing off a bunch of cocaine, which ultimately allowed Arizona to cancel his contract.
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07-07-2024, 05:39 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThisIsAnOutrage
What's this now? What video?
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On Instagram, he had a story showing what appeared to be hard drugs. The Coyotes cut him loose. He then posted something saying that he really messed up. Haven't heard from him since. Hopefully he gets it together.
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07-07-2024, 05:50 PM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
On Instagram, he had a story showing what appeared to be hard drugs. The Coyotes cut him loose. He then posted something saying that he really messed up. Haven't heard from him since. Hopefully he gets it together.
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He signed with Spartak Moscow in the KHL a few weeks ago, so at east professionally he landed on his feet more or less. He may have not been long for the NHL anyway.
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07-07-2024, 06:48 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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KHL has some oiler vibes.
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07-07-2024, 07:13 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThisIsAnOutrage
What's this now? What video?
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It's all over youtube, just search "Ruzicka cocaine"
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