07-03-2024, 04:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Tarasenko Signs 2 Years with Detroit (4.75M AAV)
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07-03-2024, 04:17 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Not bad cap hit but he really hasn't been great for a couple years. Yzerman spinning his wheels, Detroit is still just a borderline playoff team.
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07-03-2024, 04:20 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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That is a ton of money for a 3rd line player with maybe 2nd unit PP time…
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07-03-2024, 04:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Detroit needs experience. Couple of old guys who've won some cup will help them immensely.
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07-03-2024, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamca
That is a ton of money for a 3rd line player with maybe 2nd unit PP time…
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23 goals and 55 points in 76 games last season. That's one hell of a 3rd-liner.
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07-03-2024, 04:27 PM
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Backup Goalie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamca
That is a ton of money for a 3rd line player with maybe 2nd unit PP time…
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23 goal, 55 point 2x cup winner. On a just starting to compete Detroit squad he's more than just any 3rd line player. They need experience and leadership. For 2 yrs this is a perfect deal
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07-03-2024, 04:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Detroit moving a 2nd to move Walman out...and then just giving that money to Kane/Tarasenko is so weird to me.
Their defense is still brutal and Petry/Chiarot/Holl/Maatta are all worse than Walman was.
They still don't have a partner for Seider.
And they still have to re-sign Raymond, Seider, and Veleno.
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07-03-2024, 04:35 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
Not bad cap hit but he really hasn't been great for a couple years. Yzerman spinning his wheels, Detroit is still just a borderline playoff team.
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Yzerman is a great GM but he joined a team that went through a rebuild without acquiring any elite talent so they’re gonna struggle to be a cup contender. Needed a lottery win or two.
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07-03-2024, 04:36 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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I get his experience and helping younger players in Detroit.
This was more a comment on the salary for a 34 year old with a lot of hockey played.
Tarsey certainly has been a valuable player in previous seasons, however he was not a stand out during the Panthers Cup run.
Also, I see his numbers on the decline, but he may surprise in Detroit and have a resurgence.
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07-03-2024, 04:39 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamca
I get his experience and helping younger players in Detroit.
This was more a comment on the salary for a 34 year old with a lot of hockey played.
Tarsey certainly has been a valuable player in previous seasons, however he was not a stand out during the Panthers Cup run.
Also, I see his numbers on the decline, but he may surprise in Detroit and have a resurgence.
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I agree, I found he wasn't very effective in this past playoffs and Florida's cup had little to do with him. Good pick up for that price, but Detroit is not a lock to even make the playoffs at this point.
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07-03-2024, 04:41 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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The Wings also traded Fabbri and his 4 million dollar cap hit to Anaheim with a 4th for an ECHL goalie.
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07-03-2024, 04:43 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yzerman is a great GM but he joined a team that went through a rebuild without acquiring any elite talent so they’re gonna struggle to be a cup contender. Needed a lottery win or two.
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Ehh I'm less sure he's a great GM than I once was.
Still think he's a good GM...but his work in Detroit has been suspect especially his trades and free agency decisions.
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07-03-2024, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Detroit moving a 2nd to move Walman out...and then just giving that money to Kane/Tarasenko is so weird to me.
Their defense is still brutal and Petry/Chiarot/Holl/Maatta are all worse than Walman was.
They still don't have a partner for Seider.
And they still have to re-sign Raymond, Seider, and Veleno.
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Edvinsson is graduating to the roster this year. Yzerman said he was making room.for him. Plus they have a few up and comers who could earn a spot or take a job as well
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07-03-2024, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
Not bad cap hit but he really hasn't been great for a couple years. Yzerman spinning his wheels, Detroit is still just a borderline playoff team.
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60 point pace, not too bad.
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07-03-2024, 04:45 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yzerman is a great GM but he joined a team that went through a rebuild without acquiring any elite talent so they’re gonna struggle to be a cup contender. Needed a lottery win or two.
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He got very unlucky as they had the worst season in the salary cap era only to lose the lottery 3 times. That being said, Lafreniere was 1st pick and wouldn't change much.
Zadina and Veleno really hurt them, other than 2020 they weren't positioned in the bottom 3 either. No luck in the draft lottery but the Flames had similar lack of luck the years prior and managed at least a team that can win the division.
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07-03-2024, 04:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Edvinsson is graduating to the roster this year. Yzerman said he was making room.for him.
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Then pay a second to move one of Holl, Maatta, etc.
Or just put Walman on waivers where it's been said he likely gets selected and don't just give up a second as your first offer to get rid of him which has been said to surprise other GMs including Grier.
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07-03-2024, 05:00 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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Ken Holland is available. I’m sure it rubbed off on him, but he knows a thing or two about winning, if there are any concerns.
On topic, I wasn’t as impressed with tarasenko in the finals as I thought. Still, over 82 games he probably gets PP time and 25 goals.
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07-04-2024, 07:20 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yzerman is a great GM but he joined a team that went through a rebuild without acquiring any elite talent so they’re gonna struggle to be a cup contender. Needed a lottery win or two.
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Yep, calgary needs to take note as we go through this. Need 2 or 3 shots at top 5 ish picks to hopefully land a franchise centre or least elite forward.
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07-05-2024, 03:58 PM
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I'm not sure what the hell Yzerman's plan is...
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07-06-2024, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yzerman is a great GM but he joined a team that went through a rebuild without acquiring any elite talent so they’re gonna struggle to be a cup contender. Needed a lottery win or two.
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Yup. This is my big fear with the Flames if the refuse to bottom out. Hopefully this year brings a top 5 pick though.
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