[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[Strange Brew]

One thing seems very likely, Flames aren’t holding a spot for him indefinitely. I have heard Conroy explicitly say they will be looking at D in free agency as part of their 3 to 5 year plan. Let’s say they sign a vet or two. He’s going to hold spots open for some of these guys he just acquired this past year too.

I’d be surprised if teams are falling over themselves offering OK a contract with term.I wouldn’t.

[gvitaly]

IMO Kylington was a 3rd pairing D, that was below average defensively in the 30 games last year.

He's a huge gamble for any team, including the Flames.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Do we know he didn't give them that? The contract negotiation could be simply over term. He wants more the Flames want less. The entitlement here is a liitle loopy

Again, that’s where a healthy dose of consideration comes in. Give the team the benefit of the doubt to do right by you.

Squabbling over an extra year or some dollars is a bad look.

And I’m not saying that’s what’s happening because I don’t know, but if it is that small a gap, sign the team friendly deal.

In the end, I think he’ll be back. He just wants to see what is out there.

[Circa89]

Originally Posted by Icon

We have close to zero information beyond they didn't agree on a deal.

Flames maybe only offering 1-3yrs. Kylington could be looking for 5yr+. That could be more impactful than the dollar amount.

Who knows.

Not really, AAV vs years of contract again comes down to how much total money one can make.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I certainly don’t.

But I can infer they likely didn’t, by the fact that he wasn’t traded like the other pending UFA’s.

By not trading Kylington that likely tells me they either thought that signing him was a forgone conclusion, or they didn’t care if they lost him for nothing. My guess is it’s the former.

Or they felt that trading him would potentially be disruptive to his journey back

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

IMO Kylington was a 3rd pairing D, that was below average defensively in the 30 games last year.

He's a huge gamble for any team, including the Flames.

Tanev really had a knack for making people around him better and I think Kylington greatly benefited from that. I’m sure he has more to give and hard to judge him based on the circumstances surrounding his return.

Wont make any conclusions since we don’t know what the team or player want at this point. Hopefully something can get done because he is a good 3rd pairing D with the ability to move up the lineup.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Also who was going to give up something for a player that missed the last year and a half with mental health issues?

Why would a team bet on that for a d man who hasn't shown much away from Tanev?

I don't think there was a market for him then or on July 1st.

He's getting a 1 year deal wherever he signs.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Also who was going to give up something for a player that missed the last year and a half with mental health issues?

Why would a team bet on that for a d man who hasn't shown much away from Tanev?

I don't think there was a market for him then or on July 1st.

He's getting a 1 year deal wherever he signs.

Utah maybe? They did well with Valimaki.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Utah maybe? They did well with Valimaki.

And the Generics have just four NHL defencemen under contract, two of whom just arrived via trade. There's certainly a hole to be filled.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

As someone who has battled mental health issues their entire life, and comes from a family of it (some with MUCH worse battles than myself), I have issues with this. They were very loyal to you. Mental health issues are real, and need to be treated on par with physical issues....they're also not a free pass. I completely disagree with his decision.

I will applaud him if he chooses leaves. He has to do what's best for him and has earned the right to test the waters. If he circles back and signs with us even better.

[butterfly]

Why do people say "test" free agency? Kylington played the contract and is exercising free agency.

You'd really be a fool not to.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Why do people say "test" free agency? Kylington played the contract and is exercising free agency.

You'd really be a fool not to.

I think the question is why does he want to go to free agency? Does he have a problem with Calgary? Does he feel like the dollar amount or term is not fair? A lot of people assumed this would be an easy deal since a ton of goodwill was extended his way during his absence. Sure, that doesn’t mean that he has to sign with the Flames since his contract is over, but one would think that he would want to get a deal done with the team that managed his leave and treated him the right way.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I would think Calgary would make a fairly risk averse offer, and Kylington’s agent may think the fair market would maybe have a longer term or more favourable terms. Given it’s a unique situation, maybe they have a gentleman’s agreement to let OK explore his options, and come back to discuss in light of having explored the market

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

I think the question is why does he want to go to free agency? Does he have a problem with Calgary? Does he feel like the dollar amount or term is not fair? A lot of people assumed this would be an easy deal since a ton of goodwill was extended his way during his absence. Sure, that doesn’t mean that he has to sign with the Flames since his contract is over, but one would think that he would want to get a deal done with the team that managed his leave and treated him the right way.

I don't disagree with you at all. It was a word choice criticism.

But, if the Flames are offering 2x$2.5 and someone else offers 2x$2.75, Kylington can circle back and make $500k either in Calgary or the other place by waiting two days. From the interviews I've seen it doesn't seem like he wants to leave.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

What did the flames do that is different from any other organization? Sure I guess there are some potentially ####ty organizations that wouldn’t support mental health but I’d guess most teams would’ve done the same. Do they really deserve so much good will? Is the expectation other teams would’ve cancelled his contract or something?

In that respect, what does Kyllington owe the flames? Let him leave. Cheer him, boo him. At that point he’s just another ex flame. And if he re-signs, great. I always liked him as a player.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Why do people say "test" free agency? Kylington played the contract and is exercising free agency.

You'd really be a fool not to.

kinda

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

What did the flames do that is different from any other organization? Sure I guess there are some potentially ####ty organizations that wouldn’t support mental health but I’d guess most teams would’ve done the same. Do they really deserve so much good will? Is the expectation other teams would’ve cancelled his contract or something?

In that respect, what does Kyllington owe the flames? Let him leave. Cheer him, boo him. At that point he’s just another ex flame. And if he re-signs, great. I always liked him as a player.

Some teams would have tried to get out of paying a guy millions of dollars to not play I bet

[Mindtravellee]

Wasn't Mironmanov playing more minutes than Kylington when he joined Calgary? I think his acquisition made retaining Kylington less needed.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I certainly don’t.

But I can infer they likely didn’t, by the fact that he wasn’t traded like the other pending UFA’s.

By not trading Kylington that likely tells me they either thought that signing him was a forgone conclusion, or they didn’t care if they lost him for nothing. My guess is it’s the former.

Or thirdly, the market for trading him was light, because he hadn’t played long enough.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Some teams would have tried to get out of paying a guy millions of dollars to not play I bet

That would have been an unsuccessful attempt and been an exceptionally bad look on the Flames.