2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[D as in David]

No one here knows what the Flames are offering Kylington. He should accept whatever they offer out of a sense of loyalty?

He may test free agency to see if the market values him more.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It’s a business. If Kylington can do better on the UFA market then he should. Flames may only be offering him a short term deal. If he can get a multi year contract he should.

Lol selfish move by Kylington after the Flames just paid him millions to do nothing other than work on himself and get healthy.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Not a good look for Kylington at all. Especially after making a few million $$ for doing absolutely nothing over the past few years.

Maybe he just wants a fresh start? Or to live somewhere where they don't care about hockey and people wouldn't recognize him.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Conroy on Fan960 - sounds like Kylington going to test free agency.

Originally Posted by D as in David

No one here knows what the Flames were offering Kylington. He should accept whatever they offer out of a sense of loyalty?

He may test free agency to see if the market values him more.

People don’t come back after testing free agency?

If he is not signed then he is gone

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It’s a business. If Kylington can do better on the UFA market then he should. Flames may only be offering him a short term deal. If he can get a multi year contract he should.

You’re right, it is a business but in Kylingtons case the Flames didn’t treat it like that. I’m sure there’s some way the Flames could have applied to get out from under his contract but they didn’t. It feels a bit gross tbh.

[Electricprez]

So do we boo Kylington mercilessly next time he comes through or…

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by D as in David

No one here knows what the Flames are offering Kylington. He should accept whatever they offer out of a sense of loyalty?

He may test free agency to see if the market values him more.

I’m pretty confident whatever the Flames are offering him is probably fair market value given he has only played six months of hockey in the past 2+ years.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

So do we boo Kylington mercilessly next time he comes through or…

No, sir. It's a bummer but life goes on.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Lol selfish move by Kylington after the Flames just paid him millions to do nothing other than work on himself and get healthy.

lol. Still shows people have a long way to go with mental health. Just tell yourself he was injured like Monahan and feel better about it.

[FlamesAddiction]

He could just be testing the market to let it set the value. Like what Zadorov did. Sometimes it's the easiest way to do it.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol. Still shows people have a long way to go with mental health. Just tell yourself he was injured like Monahan and feel better about it.

I struggle with mental health as well so I fully understand some of the challenges thanks.

If my employer continued to pay me for a full year while I worked on my mental health, you can bet your ass I would feel a sense of loyalty to said employer.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

You’re right, it is a business but in Kylingtons case the Flames didn’t treat it like that. I’m sure there’s some way the Flames could have applied to get out from under his contract but they didn’t. It feels a bit gross tbh.

Eh. The company I work for is very helpful with people going through mental health issues and they don’t expect those employees to stay on the cheap. It’s just the right thing to do. Makes me like the Flames org more.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Eh. The company I work for is very helpful with people going through mental health issues and they don’t expect those employees to stay on the cheap. It’s just the right thing to do. Makes me like the Flames org more.

What makes you think the Flames were expecting him to “stay on the cheap”?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I struggle with mental health as well so I fully understand some of the challenges thanks.

If my employer continued to pay me for a full year while I worked on my mental health, you can bet your ass I would feel a sense of loyalty to said employer.

If some team will give term to Kylington and the Flames won’t then he should take the term. We will see how it shakes out July 1st

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

What makes you think the Flames were expecting him to “stay on the cheap”?

He’d be signing with the Flames if he thought the contract was fair. My guess is he thinks he can get term and the Flames want a short term contract. Both positions make sense. If he doesn’t get term in free agency then I wouldn’t be surprised if he circles back to the Flames.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Just have to put good juju towards Florida making the playoffs again

*Conditions: 1. If CGY’s 2024 1st round pick is between 20 and 32, MTL can take that pick instead. Result: Pick was not between 20-32.

Scenario: In the event CGY receives FLA’s 2025 1st round pick:

1. If both CGY AND FLA’s picks are NOT top 10, MTL will receive the better of the CGY and FLA 2025 1st round picks. Result: TBD

2. If CGY’s pick is top 10, AND FLA’s pick is NOT top 10, MTL receives FLA’s pick. Result: TBD

Scenario: In the event CGY does NOT receive FLA’s 1st round pick:

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is NOT top 10

1. MTL will receive the CGY pick, and

2. If FLA’s pick is not top 10, is a better pick than CGY’s, and was transferred to another team due to prior conditions, MTL will also receive CGY’s 2025 4th round pick.
Result: TBD

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is top 10:

1. If CGY’s pick is 1st overall, MTL will receive CGY’s 2025 3rd, and the better of CGY and FLA’s 2026 1st round pick. Result: TBD

2. If CGY’s pick is 2nd to 10th, MTL receives CGY’s 2025 1st round pick. Result: TBD

FLA's 1st round pick is lottery protected for 2025

So the nightmare scenario is that the Flames' 2025 1st round pick is 2-10, the Panthers miss the playoffs and they win the draft lottery. As a result, the Panthers keep their 2025 1st round pick and the Habs get our 2025 1st round pick (which is 2-10 overall). Which would be the most Flames thing to have ever happened.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So the nightmare scenario is that the Flames' 2025 1st round pick is 2-10, the Panthers miss the playoffs and they win the draft lottery. As a result, the Panthers keep their 2025 1st round pick and the Habs get our 2025 1st round pick (which is 2-10 overall). Which would be the most Flames thing to have ever happened.

Yup. I am totally prepared for the Canadiens to be picking 2nd overall with the Flames pick but it’d take a lot of bad luck.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He could just be testing the market to let it set the value. Like what Zadorov did. Sometimes it's the easiest way to do it.

Like what anybody in any other position is encouraged to do in order to maximize their income.

[keenan87]

Just gotta hope Florida makes the playoffs again next season. They are basically going in with the same roster so you would think they can at least grab a wildcard spot.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Just gotta hope Florida makes the playoffs again next season. They are basically going in with the same roster so you would think they can at least grab a wildcard spot.

Yeah. I way too lazy to look but I don’t think a cup winner has missed the playoffs the following season too often.