06-28-2024, 09:26 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Legit question - if Holland is out as GM who’s acting as GM of the no goods in the draft this year? Or because he’s still under contract he’ll be there?
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McDavid
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06-28-2024, 09:31 AM
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#22
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Kamloops, B.C.
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I saw something about possibly being able to use the sportsnet + subscription to watch the draft, but haven't looked into it. Anyone know if that will work?
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06-28-2024, 09:32 AM
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#23
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All I can get
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Round 6 goalie, please.
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06-28-2024, 09:33 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Tij - great!!!
Demidov - great!!
Lindstrom - great!
Dickinson - great!
Parekh - great!
Catton - great!
Silayev - great
Buium - great
Yakemchuk - great
Eiserman - cool
Helenius - ok
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I'd be bummed if we drafted Yakemchuk.
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06-28-2024, 09:35 AM
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#25
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Legit question - if Holland is out as GM who’s acting as GM of the no goods in the draft this year? Or because he’s still under contract he’ll be there?
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06-28-2024, 09:35 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Round 6 goalie, please.
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I'd be cool with DAL's 2nd rounder getting spent on Eemil Vinni. There's a few mock drafts that have him right around that spot, and he seems to be the goalie to get.
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06-28-2024, 09:41 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Tij - great!!!
Demidov - great!!
Lindstrom - great!
Dickinson - great!
Parekh - great!
Catton - great!
Silayev - great
Buium - great
Yakemchuk - great
Eiserman - cool
Helenius - ok
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Helenius would also be great!
He's underrated here but he has the highest hockey prospecting star probability of the guys who aren't named Demidov
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06-28-2024, 10:24 AM
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#28
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Some chatter that the Kings are 50/50 on moving down from 21. Perhaps an opportunity for the Flames to move up from 28?
https://twitter.com/user/status/1806719462839869812
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06-28-2024, 10:36 AM
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#29
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by ThaBrink
I saw something about possibly being able to use the sportsnet + subscription to watch the draft, but haven't looked into it. Anyone know if that will work?
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Yup. You can sign in through your TV provider or you can get a subscription directly to sportsnet.
watch.sportsnet.ca/signin
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06-28-2024, 10:47 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Helenius would also be great!
He's underrated here but he has the highest hockey prospecting star probability of the guys who aren't named Demidov
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I disagree. I am very weary of Finnish players because they always look good in Liga which to me is filled with filler adult players. I think the CHL and the USDP has much tougher matches. I look at all the hyped Fin players recently and what happened. Laine, great release, too lazy for NHL game, bust. Kappo Kakko, 2nd overall, bust. Jesse Puljujärvi, major bust. I don't mind the Flames taking a chance with later picks out of the first round on a guy like Kiviharju but stay away from spending a high pick on one. Too many red flags.
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06-28-2024, 10:50 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Do prospects in the USNDP have the same ability to sign with any team they want when they're done playing there?
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06-28-2024, 11:07 AM
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#32
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Do prospects in the USNDP have the same ability to sign with any team they want when they're done playing there?
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Do you mean if they have the ability to go the non college route?
Yes. Matthew Tkachuk was in the USNDP and went to the London Knights.
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06-28-2024, 11:07 AM
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#33
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I disagree. I am very weary of Finnish players because they always look good in Liga which to me is filled with filler adult players. I think the CHL and the USDP has much tougher matches. I look at all the hyped Fin players recently and what happened. Laine, great release, too lazy for NHL game, bust. Kappo Kakko, 2nd overall, bust. Jesse Puljujärvi, major bust. I don't mind the Flames taking a chance with later picks out of the first round on a guy like Kiviharju but stay away from spending a high pick on one. Too many red flags.
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I've been weary of Finnish players as well. 2016 had Laine and Puljujarvi. The year before had Rantanen at 10 and of course i'd love if Helenius turned into that, but I agree that there has been a bigger bust factor coming out of Liga, or at least it appears that way on the surface.
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06-28-2024, 11:16 AM
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#34
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I disagree. I am very weary of Finnish players because they always look good in Liga which to me is filled with filler adult players. I think the CHL and the USDP has much tougher matches. I look at all the hyped Fin players recently and what happened. Laine, great release, too lazy for NHL game, bust. Kappo Kakko, 2nd overall, bust. Jesse Puljujärvi, major bust. I don't mind the Flames taking a chance with later picks out of the first round on a guy like Kiviharju but stay away from spending a high pick on one. Too many red flags.
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As a Finn, I completely understand this. But Helenius is so much different from these busts. He's like Anton Lundell with a better offensive upside. Because of his hockey IQ, I think that Helenius is safer pick than Catton/Sennecke. I see Elias Lindholm as the best comparable from the NHL. He's much smarter at his age than any of Laine/Puljujärvi/Kakko, the biggest reason all of those players are busts. But still, I'd rather take Iginla/Dickinson//Buium/Parekh with the 9th overall.
Kiviharju's even smarter, so if the Flames try to get some high end boom/bust talent with the later picks, I'm ok with Kiviharju if it happens with a 2nd/3rd rounder.
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06-28-2024, 11:19 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Do you mean if they have the ability to go the non college route?
Yes. Matthew Tkachuk was in the USNDP and went to the London Knights.
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Thanks! So, could they also play in the NCAA after USNDP? I'm of the small group that hopes the Flames don't draft any players that play (or will play) in the NCAA...
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06-28-2024, 11:20 AM
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#36
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Kings move down to 26, Habs move up
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06-28-2024, 11:20 AM
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#37
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-28-2024, 11:22 AM
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#38
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Kamloops, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YyjFlames
Yup. You can sign in through your TV provider or you can get a subscription directly to sportsnet.
watch.sportsnet.ca/signin
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Thanks for the confirmation! Much appreciated!
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06-28-2024, 11:25 AM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
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So interesting to see multiple draft pick for draft pick trades (1st rounders too) to jostle for positioning ahead of the draft. I feel like you typically only see these types of trades happen when one of these picks is on the clock and you know who is avaialble
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06-28-2024, 11:25 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
If Demidov was a C I would agree but this team doesn't need wingers at this point. They need to start with finding a #1 C and a #1 D
I would rather keep the picks and draft 1 of the D
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I am one of the biggest proponents of 'draft a C' on here, but for Demidov, I can wait until next year (when the C crop is better)
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