[Trade] Flames trade Mangiapane to Capitals for COL 2025 2nd

[Funkhouser]

1) for those that feel this is a bad fit for WSH, I think he is going to THRIVE in DC. I expect him to exceed 30g, and dominate the fancy stats. If WSH can make the playoffs, Mang will come to play and get his retirement purse. Get ready for the talking heads out east to bring up Mang a lot.

2) agree he was overpaid. Agree he had a bad season. But damn I will miss him.
He made it onto the team despite being an undersized 6th rounder, on his second draft. He always believed in himself, and gave 100%, and I think he made his teammates better. He was pretty consistent and brought it in the playoffs. He was scared of no one. He also has one of the best names ever. See you soon Yeastmode. You have been a favourite of mine

[Enoch Root]

My first thought is that this is selling low on him, and that he would be worth more at the deadline. But that is offset (probably more than offset) by the fact that they can use the space for many things, including signing guys that they can then trade for more picks.

In light of that, good trade.

[browna]

I don't see this as any specific or further sign of a rebuild. A retool, sure.
Mangipane seems like a good guy but his 30 goal season and then WHC gold came out of nowhere.

Easily knocked down and off the puck, and last year was similar to the many previous ones beforethe 30 goal season...never an impact player or game changer.

Him and Dube gone definitely opens slots, filled by someone more likely to be more dynamic in some way.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by D as in David

If Conroy can get a late 2nd for Mangiapane without retention, what is Kuzmenko's worth? Mangiapane did have good underlying numbers but hasn't been able to regain his scoring touch. Does a potential 40 goal scored in Kuz with questionable defensive skills gets the Flames more?

Kuzzy will net them a 1st+ at the deadline I'm betting.

The return on that Lindholm trade is just going to get more juicy.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dammage79

6th round picks nets them a 2nd round pick. That's great value.

I believe he even played a couple of hockey games for them in between.

Originally Posted by Icon

There's different cap rules through the summer (allowed overage) I think.

Yup. Teams can go 10% over from July 1 until the end of training camp.

With Backstrom on LTIR, the Caps' current roster will be compliant when the season starts.

Originally Posted by dammage79

Also, he may have turned Sourdough here at the end but honestly, maybe the best 6th round pick in Flames history. Good luck sir.

Brett Hull has entered the chat.

But Mangiapane has got to be solidly in 2nd place.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mile

Good luck Bread

DeBrusk or Duclair are Flames on July 1

Yeah it's becoming evident they plan to use some of that cap space on a UFA forward. I really like this trade without retention. He was never going to fetch a 1st round pick with the way he's trending the past two seasons.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

My first thought is that this is selling low on him, and that he would be worth more at the deadline. But that is offset (probably more than offset) by the fact that they can use the space for many things, including signing guys that they can then trade for more picks.

In light of that, good trade.

Maybe if he puts up 40 goals this year, but the odds of a 1st for Mangiapane seems pretty low.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

1) for those that feel this is a bad fit for WSH, I think he is going to THRIVE in DC. I expect him to exceed 30g, and dominate the fancy stats. If WSH can make the playoffs, Mang will come to play and get his retirement purse. Get ready for the talking heads out east to bring up Mang a lot.

2) agree he was overpaid. Agree he had a bad season. But damn I will miss him.
He made it onto the team despite being an undersized 6th rounder, on his second draft. He always believed in himself, and gave 100%, and I think he made his teammates better. He was pretty consistent and brought it in the playoffs. He was scared of no one. He also has one of the best names ever. See you soon Yeastmode. You have been a favourite of mine

Definitely a feel-good story.

[Enoch Root]

As for the rebuild talk, yes the Flames have kept pounding the 'compete for the playoffs' drum, but this quote from Conroy should put an end to all discussion:

"and we have continued to emphasize the importance of how upcoming drafts will influence the future of our franchise"

Talk about being competitive all you want (as well you should), but not only have their actions been crystal clear, but Conroy has now overtly stated their goals.

Praise the fricking Hockey Gods!

[Easeback]

With Bread leaving, now Bahl can switch from #7 to #88 😄

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

What are the chances they go after a guy like Stephenson?

Seems like they're going to push for a C in Free Agency

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1806522010916495419

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

As for the rebuild talk, yes the Flames have kept pounding the 'compete for the playoffs' drum, but this quote from Conroy should put an end to all discussion:

"and we have continued to emphasize the importance of how upcoming drafts will influence the future of our franchise"

Talk about being competitive all you want (as well you should), but not only have their actions been crystal clear, but Conroy has now overtly stated their goals.

Praise the fricking Hockey Gods!

Ya there is no retool going on, that has been evident for a long time.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah it's becoming evident they plan to use some of that cap space on a UFA forward. I really like this trade without retention. He was never going to fetch a 1st round pick with the way he's trending the past two seasons.

Probably. I think that's silly and they should just leave a spot open for one of Pelletier/Coronato to claim rather then earmarking it for some pointless UFA acquisition.

[hillspeak]

This trade reminds me so much of the Glencross trade. Although with Glenny we also got a 3rd.
They are almost a similar type player.

Does Mangiapane end on a PTO though next year? Who knows…

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Probably. I think that's silly and they should just leave a spot open for one of Pelletier/Coronato to claim rather then earmarking it for some pointless UFA acquisition.

I think they are planning on upgrading on him via free agency and scooped up a 2nd round pick in the process. He was found money for the organization as a 6th round pick that had some productive seasons and solid middle six forward but it seems like the player wasn't happy so they spin him into a 2nd round pick and opened up some cap space to find a guy that can replace him and maybe provide a bit more offense. I actually think he could have productive season for the Caps as a 20 goal, 40 point winger as I think this trade was good for both parties.

[bigrangy]

I hate it.

To trade a Johnathan Huberdeau level talent who makes less than 6 and could have potentially extended for less is a bad move imo.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

I hate it.

To trade a Johnathan Huberdeau level talent who makes less than 6 and could have potentially extended for less is a bad move imo.

[GullFoss]

Oddly enough, I still don't mind the flames forward depth. They could add a number 1 center and be competitive.

Huberdeau
Sharangovich
Kuzmenko

Zary
Kadri
Pospisil

Pelletier
Backlund
Coleman

Coronato

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

In all fairness, the flames have 10 players who are Huby level talents