I can't believe Edmonton has had almost decade of McDavid and Leon and have ZERO rings to show for it. That is a historically embarrassing feat for the Oilers.
You love to see it.
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I hear you, and agree, but these days when I hear people say that I bring up one happy fact: How monumentally inept does your organization have to be to have iced the "two best players in the world" for nearly a decade with absolutely nothing to show for it? It gets even funnier when they start talking about individual points and scoring awards and the Conn Smythe.
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What position do you have to be to be called "a contender"? Top 1/3? Top 1/4?
The Oilers have been in the top 3rd of the league 3 times since 1990/91.
The Oilers have been in the top quarter of the league ONCE since 1990/1991.
The Oilers have been in the top 10 overall - 3 times since 1990/91.
Are the Oilers a contender because they finished 6th overall and 9th overall in the last 2 years?
Since 1990/91, the SC Champion has averaged 4.8th overall (median 4). It has been won by a team 10th or lower in the reg season standings 3 times in that timeframe (Both Kings wins, and the St Louis Win), one of which was inevitable becasue both teams in teh finals were 10th or lower.
Hintz missed the 1st 3 games and other than 1 game that line was invisible. Hintz plays from game 1, Dallas likely wins the series.
Didn't Boeser also get injured for the Canucks?
Edmonton had a fairly lucky run to the finals. L.A. was by far the worst team to make the playoffs, and the other 2 teams had significant players out of the line-up.
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LOL @ them pushing hard to get Leon to comment on his contract situation.
When he wont answer he pivots to McDavid to comment on what he thinks Leon should do...
Edmonton had a lot of luck getting to the finals. Gets in with the 4th worst record in the west. But they get to play the sad LA Kings - the worst western PO team (maybe with Nashville). Then they played the paper tiger Pacific champ with their backup in net. Then they play a team that had to go through Vegas and the Avs.
It was not even the Canucks backup, it was their 3rd string with a handful of games played in the league and they still struggled to beat him. They had the easiest path in the league to the finals. Avoiding the Avs and the Knights will likely not happen again. Everything fell into place for them this year to get to the finals
I heard it mentioned around here a decent amount (New England) that folks found it very entertaining to see McDavid play on this stage. Not surprising.
The question I raise is, at what point does the NHL/PA ever ‘intervene’ in a situation like this to discuss with a player who has potential to drive interest ($$) to leave a market where he is largely invisible?
I do recognize the downside as a Flames fan of this suggestion. My best response to that concern is that Edmonton showed no management ‘skill’ in acquiring McDavid… he was simply a lottery win. Should that lottery entitle them to having him his whole career?
If it were the Flames, I would be ok with having a player like that for 10 years. That’s more than enough, particularly if it was a generational lottery type win. Maybe if it was a sleeper late first round or something I’d feel different. But in this case, I think it’s more than fair for everyone (and best for the league, and everyone outside Edmonton) if McDavid moves to a bigger or growing market within 2 years.
The best thing to happen to the NHL was Gretzky going to LA. McDavid in a big US market would have been huge for the NHL and just goes to show that the lottery isn't fixed. The only downside is that he has absolutely no personality but he would be would be a big deal in a market like Chicago, LA, NY, etc as he's kind of the NHL's version of Mahomes (less the championships of course but Edmonton...).
Hey man, I can absolutely relate to being thin skinned and going off tilt when someone pushes your buttons on here because life is currently eating a carton of Ex Lax, dropping it's drawers, and squatting over your head. Stay strong and if you want to vent it out look up the rate your mental health thread in the off topic, there is some good discussion and support there. I really hope they can save your sight so you can continue to be able to see future Oiler failures. Cheers.
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Yeah. "We look around and can't see a team in the league that's closer to winning than this one".
Really? I can think of a few
Edmonton:
-Few Prospects
-Few picks in next couple of years
-Cap crunch makes it difficult to keep current group for next season - very likely to have less depth. No upcoming prospects that can fill holes cheaply.
-Cap Crunch makes it IMPOSSIBLE to keep current group 2 years out.
LOL @ them pushing hard to get Leon to comment on his contract situation.
When he wont answer he pivots to McDavid to comment on what he thinks Leon should do...
So cringeworthy.
That Draisaitl sequence was so cringey. He didn't sound overly committed and you could tell it scared them. The media trying to convince him to make a commitment right then and there was embarrassing and probably doesn't help things. Then to go to MCdavid and ask him to join in... oof.
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I irrationally see red when I hear "best player in the world". It's overhype - any player who's the best in the NHL is the best in the world because no league comes close. But no one was proclaiming Sid or Jarome or Jagr or Mario or even Gretzky were "best in the world" because it just sounds so stupid.
Not to mention you can make a good case against McDavid based on his poor 200 foot game.
Agreed. It’s always struck me as a funny designation to bestow upon him, especially with no clear metric.
It’s always reminded me of friendly (often beer-fueled) debates friends and I had around Crosby and Ovechkin around 2005-10. The consensus we arrived at was Ovechkin was probably the more pure skilled guy (certainly the more skilled goal scorer). We thought if you compiled top highlights of both guys, Ovechkin’s would probably be the more entertaining and, at times, astounding with what he could do. But, if you could only pick one to build your team around to win it all, it would be Crosby every time.
I think the talk around McAvi is similar. IMO, he is the most skilled player in the game. The things he does with the puck, and the speed he does them at, are amazing. I don’t think there’s another player that quite comes close right now. But shifting to who’s the one guy you’d build your team around to win it all? The discussion gets more interesting. Certainly he’s in the mix, but so are Mackinnon, Makar, probably Barkov, and a few others I’m probably missing.
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