06-25-2024, 02:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by CMPunk
Shea Weber? Good player, but HOF worthy?
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A little surprised as well, at least this quickly. He was a great player though, so I'm not really complaining, just doesn't seem like an obvious pick for the HOF either.
I'm assuming he goes in as a Pred, which probably helps his case. They can't have too many players in the HOF and I am sure the HOF likes the optics of adding a player from there just to get more representation.
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06-25-2024, 02:41 PM
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Kind of surprised with Weber. What’s the story on Mogilny?
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06-25-2024, 02:47 PM
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#23
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This is one of those years where they could have just inducted less people instead of further lowering the bar. Roenick? Meh.
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06-25-2024, 02:47 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
He is in the HOF because he managed to still get paid 3 years after he last picked up a hockey stick...
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Only 3? How quaint
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06-25-2024, 02:52 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Campbell is a disgrace to the NHL and should have been fired when those emails leaked years back. He's exhibit A why the NHL old boys club still has a firm grip on the NHL and a reason that the disciplinary system is the 2nd worst in professional sports after the CFL.
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06-25-2024, 02:55 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by CMPunk
Shea Weber? Good player, but HOF worthy?
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Nope. Not as bad as Kevin Lowe but he never won a Norris and was never one of the best three defensemen in the NHL at any given time.
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06-25-2024, 03:00 PM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Nope. Not as bad as Kevin Lowe but he never won a Norris and was never one of the best three defensemen in the NHL at any given time.
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Exactly. They lowered the bar with Lowe and now, who's next? Zubov? Gonchar?
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06-25-2024, 03:14 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by CMPunk
Shea Weber? Good player, but HOF worthy?
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His IIHF record is superb. Ya he didn't win a Cup but he dragged a bad Montreal team to the Bubble Cup Final.
He absolutely is HOF worthy IMO.
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06-25-2024, 03:50 PM
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Weber is not at all surprising:
- He logged massive minutes every night for over a decade as a top two-way dman in the league
- Three-time Norris runner-up with two other 4th place finishes and a couple finishes in the 5-10 range
- 4x AST finishes
- Good playoff performer, including being the Habs #1 dman in their 2020-21 cinderella run
- Won everything there is to win internationally - Olympics, WJC, World Cup, and World Championships
- Kept his public persona clean and uncontroversial
Maybe he flew under the radar to some people, but his resume is really impressive. It was only a matter of time before he was going to be inducted.
Last edited by boogerz; 06-25-2024 at 03:53 PM.
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06-25-2024, 03:55 PM
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Colin Campbell??? He should've been fired after the emails leaked about how he harassed the Director of officiating over calls against his son. Or after his comments to John Scott when he was selected to the all-star game.
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06-25-2024, 03:56 PM
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Mogilny still with nothing is absolute garbage.
What did he do to the NHL to be ignored this long? Has to be a story here… it just doesn’t add up.
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06-25-2024, 04:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Mogilny still with nothing is absolute garbage.
What did he do to the NHL to be ignored this long? Has to be a story here… it just doesn’t add up.
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It has to be because he defected. He the first Russian player to do so and caused a mini avalanche of their best players leaving by defection, agreement or somewhere in between and the league doesn't want to piss off the Russians.
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06-25-2024, 05:04 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Nope. Not as bad as Kevin Lowe but he never won a Norris and was never one of the best three defensemen in the NHL at any given time.
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3x Norris Finalist
5x Top 5 Norris voting
9x Top 10 Norris voting
2x First Team All Star
2x Second Team All Star
2x Olympic Gold
1x World Cup
1x WJC
15th all time in goals by a defenseman
5x Top 10 Finishes in Points by a defenseman
1x Stanley Cup Final
42 Points in 97 playoff games
90% of this was done in a media black hole in Nashville. This is a HHOF resume.
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06-25-2024, 05:17 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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I think on the balance Weber deserves to go in the hall, like some have mentioned already there's certainly some names already in there that he should make it in above, and others that should be in there already that haven't been inducted yet. I will admit on that I do have my own bias' though for the performances he put in for Canada over the years.
What's more surprising to me personally is that Datsyuk wasn't already in the hall by now. What an incredible player. He's also so universally appreciated that's why I'm so surprised to learn that.
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06-25-2024, 05:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Colin Campbell??? The guy fixed games with the refs to benefit his son.
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06-25-2024, 05:34 PM
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#36
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I think Weber is more deserving than Roenick, personally. But I am fine with both.
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06-25-2024, 05:41 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Campbell is a disgrace to the NHL and should have been fired when those emails leaked years back. He's exhibit A why the NHL old boys club still has a firm grip on the NHL and a reason that the disciplinary system is the 2nd worst in professional sports after the CFL.
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They put the "old" in old boys club too.
Daly is 60yrs old - and should be organizing his transition to retirement
Campbell is 71yrs old
Bettman is 72yrs old - and was showing visible signs of Parkinsons in the speech given during the SC presentation.
These guys should be haunting a condo board or HOA somewhere, not running the NHL at those ages.
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06-25-2024, 06:55 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
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I like Roenick getting in.
I don’t like Webber getting in.
I still dont understand how Mogilny isn’t in already.
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06-25-2024, 08:13 PM
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cole436
3x Norris Finalist
5x Top 5 Norris voting
9x Top 10 Norris voting
2x First Team All Star
2x Second Team All Star
2x Olympic Gold
1x World Cup
1x WJC
15th all time in goals by a defenseman
5x Top 10 Finishes in Points by a defenseman
1x Stanley Cup Final
42 Points in 97 playoff games
90% of this was done in a media black hole in Nashville. This is a HHOF resume.
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Yeah. Weber resume is better than Roenick's but these are all star players
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06-25-2024, 08:17 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Roenick!
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