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[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

"Political views" is insufficient to describe Fleury's conspiracy ridden, bigoted, unscientific, grifting behaviour.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Bobby Orr approved the character of a person who openly committed adultery, putting Bobby's character into a clear view. I guess the Bruins should be re-evaluating as well.

So, just trying make sure I understand the argument here...

If I like another human being, and that person has committed adultery, then I am a bad person?

Maybe we should spend a little less time and energy judging each other.

[Ped]

Rules are a little different when you support Trump, as Orr did (and presumably still does). And if they're not, they should be.

“This much I know. Our current president has had to operate under extremely difficult conditions over the past several years. In addition, no leader anywhere signed up with the idea that dealing with a worldwide pandemic would be part of their mandate. The attacks on our President have been unrelenting since the day he took office. Despite that, President Trump has delivered for all the American people, regardless of race, gender, or station in life.
“That’s the kind of teammate I want.”

[Yeah_Baby]

I want everyone to know I deleted what I was planning on saying, even before I hit send, because I didn't want to derail the thread further to be about the legacy of neoliberalism.

Growth.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Ped

Rules are a little different when you support Trump, as Orr did (and presumably still does). And if they're not, they should be.

Given their demographics, I expect around half of American NHL players (and coaches, GMs, scouts, agents, etc). support Trump.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Given the demographics, I expect around half of American NHLers support Trump.

Quite possibly. And if any of them take out a full-page ad endorsing him, I'll criticize them too.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It's not just my opinion, but OK man.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's not just my opinion, but OK man.

It’s nice that calling people who support the LGBTQ community “groomers” and calling anyone you don’t like “pedophile” are just simply political views now.

We should probably reinstate Bill Peters, for having been unfairly maligned for his political views.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So, just trying make sure I understand the argument here...

If I like another human being, and that person has committed adultery, then I am a bad person?

Maybe we should spend a little less time and energy judging each other.

I guess I should have done it in green text.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So, just trying make sure I understand the argument here...

If I like another human being, and that person has committed adultery, then I am a bad person?

Maybe we should spend a little less time and energy judging each other.

Alternatively, we could spend more time doing it. Everyone's done something wrong, meaning we can all judge each other to our heart's content.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This would just create more noise and the opposite of ignore

Unless someone comes in and really wants 14 who cares . And I can’t imagine someone wanting that extra distraction anyways unless an established veteran who has worn the number

Those born in 2014 are still a few more years until they are drafted.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How so? His comment was you can't forgive someone for not being right in the head?

Originally Posted by GFG#1

All mental health issues need to be treated properly and hopefully anyone with them can get the help they need. When Theo needed the help it wasn't there, who knows how he would have turned out had it been there.

Glad Oliver is on the mend, hope he re signs, if he chooses to move on so be it as long as he is healthy and stays that way. I am happy with the way the organization dealt with him and the situation.

I don't pretend to be in the know what Kylington was going through, so I can't really comment on his situation. I did however read Fleury's book and I can definitely say that is one situation I would never wish on anyone. The trauma he went through, no one should ever have to go through.

Step 1 - Take accountability.

He's still not even on Step 1.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I disagree.



You and I building a team? Sure, we can raise your hands up and proclaim this as impossible to guess the future.


Treliving (or any other GM)? Absolutely not an excuse here. They hire assistant GMs, pro scouts, analytic teams to find these answers. They can make calls and get at information that we can't have - background checks, word of mouth, rumours, etc., that we in the public don't really have access to either. They have years of hands-on experience and training (usually), have almost always have been devoting their entire career to the game.

They still don't know the future.

I ask again, why wasn't Giordano drafted? Is it because every GM and scout in the business was stupid? Or is it because… (drumroll)…

THEY DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE?

Judging their decisions in hindsight is just plain stupid.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Agreed. You should also be allowed to acknowledge his fantastic career and time in Calgary, especially considering the pains of his upbringing.

You're also allowed to like the guy, regardless of his political views.

'member when we could appreciate artists, and people in general regardless of their political views?

I 'member.

Agree 100%.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Thats a really p poor comparable

I wasn't the one who doesn't want to recognize individuals who are "not in their right mind". It absolutely is comparable in that context.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

"Political views" is insufficient to describe Fleury's conspiracy ridden, bigoted, unscientific, grifting behaviour.

For sure.

But it's certainly ok to just love the player in the Calgary uniform as a stand alone topic.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I guess I should have done it in green text.

Glad to hear - like you as a poster and was having trouble reconciling the post!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

"Political views" is insufficient to describe Fleury's conspiracy ridden, bigoted, unscientific, grifting behaviour.

It’s okay to just say he’s crazy and leave it at that.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It’s okay to just say he’s crazy and leave it at that.

When someone has a profile as large as Theo's it's way worse when they spread the garbage takes he's become renowned for. He's brainwashing quite a lot of impressionable and unintelligent people - that's egregious.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

When someone has a profile as large as Theo's it's way worse when they spread the garbage takes he's become renowned for. He's brainwashing quite a lot of impressionable and unintelligent people - that's egregious.

I don't think you understand how brainwashing works. It requires 24/7 control of the subject's environment and complete control of all information the subject sees or hears.

Fleury isn't in a position to brainwash anybody. He's a loudmouth on social media, like thousands of others.