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Old 06-21-2024, 08:44 PM   #4541
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Hey @Sandman, do you have a profile on Matvei Gridin? He seems like an intriguing prospect to me and seems to be ranked all over the place by the major publications.
Sorry, man- I've been out all day. Here it is:

Left-handed RW Matvei Gridin was drafted 223rd overall in the 2022 USHL Draft, and he has exceeded all expectations for Muskegon, piling up 18 goals and 41 points in just 34 games for a club that currently sits 3rd in the East, and 5th overall (3rd in goals-for). Despite playing mostly on the second line, albeit with top PP duties, he leads the team in scoring while taking the 2nd overall spot in the scoring race, 5th in goals, and first overall for U-18 players. Those numbers pro-rate to 32 goals and 73 points in 61 USHL games- in a league that's considered to be hard to score in. Gridin currently has 14 points via the PP (7g,7a), and is tied for 2nd in the league with 5 game-winners. He plays on the same club with potential first-rounder, Sacha Boisvert.
Gridin's game is facilitated by his supreme puck-skills, and some say he's the best 1-on-1 player in the league. He doesn't always need to rush, as he's patient and can slow the game down, and he's highly elusive- he can go around you, or play the play the puck right through you. Shooting is definitely his perferred choice of weapon, as he averaged 6 shots per game in the first few months of action (and sometimes hit double-digits), but he's a dual-threat winger who shows some high-end playmaking, with crisp, accurate passing. His hard, accurate shooting arsenal comes with an NHL-caliber release, but he will also go the net hard to cause havok, or capitalize on tips and rebounds. Gridin is a smooth skater with separation speed, remarkable edgework and agility, and can cover a lot of ground quickly. He's not all finesse, as there's a little power in his game, and he will battle hard along the walls, corners, and in front of the net, and won't hesitate to lean into opponents to leverage his way to the middle, or to the net.
Despite his talent, Gridin's off-puck game is minus in the eyes of scouts. He often seems to be marching to his own drum- out of position, or late to the play. This problem affects his defensive zone play as well. It has has led to questions about his work ethic, as he has obvious hockey sense. He can drive play, but too often plays on the perimeter, waiting for the play to come to him. These are fixable problems, and it's impossible to ignore his tremendous offensive upside, but he will have time to work his problems out, as he's committed to the University of Michigan next year. Most likely a first-rounder.
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FN Barn Burner uploaded their draft primer today.

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Old 06-22-2024, 01:39 AM   #4545
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Sandman's Final Draft Rankings (Top 100):

1) C Mack Celebrini
2) RW Ivan Demidov
3) D Artyom Levshunov
4) D Sam Dickinson
5) D Zeev Buium
6) LW Tij Iginla
7) D Zayne Parekh
8) D Anton Silayev
9) RW Beckett Sennecke
10) C Berkly Catton
11) D Carter Yakemchuk
12) C Cayden Lindstrom
13) C Konsta Helenius
14) C Cole Eiserman
15) C Michael Hage
16) LW Ivan Chernyshov
17) RW Liam Greentree
18) RW Ryder Ritchie
19) RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
20) LW Trevor Connelly
21) RW Yegor Surin
22) D Adam Jiricek
23) RW Emil Hemming
24) D Stian Solberg
25) C Jett Luchanko
26) RW Terik Parascak
27) D Alfons Freij
28) C Lucas Petterson
29) C Sacha Boisvert
30) D Cole Hutson
31) D Henry Mews
32) LW Nikita Artamonov

33) LW Marek Vanacker
34) D EJ Emery
35) RW Matvei Gridin
36) D Aron Kiviharju
37) D Leo Sahlin Wellenius
38) C Cole Beaudoin
39) LW Tanner Howe
40) C Dean Letourneau
41) LW Andrew Basha
42) RW Maxim Masse'
43) D Noel Franson
44) D Dominik Badinka
45) RW Sam O'Reilly
46) D Jesse Pulkkinen
47) D Charlie Elick
48) C Julius Miettinen
49) D Harrison Brunicke
50) C Linus Eriksson
51) RW Miguel Marques
52) C Luke Misa
53) D Spencer Gill
54) D Lukas Fischer
55) RW Justin Poirier
56) LW Teddy Stiga
57) RW Adam Jecho
58) RW Brodie Ziemer
59) D Ben Danford
60) C Simon Zether
61) C Raoul Boilard
62) C Kamil Bednarik
63) D Colton Roberts
64) D Veeti Vaisanen
65) D Luca Marrelli

66) D Will Skahan
67) D Tarin Smith
68) RW Jacob Battaglia
69) LW Melvin Fernstrom
70) LW John Mustard
71) C Christian Humphreys
72) LW Max Plante
73) D Daniil Ustinkov
74) LW Hagen Burrows
75) D Adam Kleber
76) D Leon Muggli
77) G Emil Vinni
78) LW Will Zellers
79) G Ilya Nabokov
80) RW Kasper Pikkarainen
81) G Kim Saarinen
82) C AJ Spellacy
83) D Tory Pitner
84) LW Ollie Josephson
85) D Gabriel Eliasson
86) D Matvei Shuravin
87) RW Ondrej Kos
88) LW Eriks Mateiko
89) D Niilopekka Muhonen
90) D Jakub Fibigr
91) D Sebastian Soini
92) C Clarke Caswell
93) G Carter George
94) C Aatos Koivu
95) G Ryerson Leenders
96) D Anthony Cristoforo
97) C Nathan Villeneuve

98) C Alexander Zetterberg
99) RW Carson Wetsch
100) Tomas Lavoie
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The Final Tiers To Consider:

1) Celebrini
2) Demidov
3) Levshunov/ Dickinson/ Buium
4) Iginla/ Parekh/ Silayev
5) Sennecke/ Catton/ Yakemchuk/ Lindstrom
6) Helenius/ Eiserman
7) Hage/ Chernyshov/ Greentree
8) Ritchie/ Brandsegg-Nygard/ Connelly/ Surin/ Jiricek
9) Hemming/Solberg
10) Luchanko/ Parascak/Freij
11) Petterson/ Boisvert/ Hutson/ Mews
12) Artamonov/ Vanacker/ Emery/ Gridin/ Kiviharju/ Wellenius/ Beaudoin/ Howe/ Letourneau/ Basha/ Masse
13) Franson/ Badinka/ O'Reilly/ Pulkkinen/ Elick/ Miettinen
14) Misa/ Eriksson/ Marques/ Brunicke/ Fischer/ Gill
15) Poirier/ Stiga/ Jecho/ Ziemer/ Danford/ Zether/ Boilard/ Bednarik/ Roberts/ Vaisanen/ Marrelli
16) Skahan/ Smith/ Battaglia/ Fernstrom/ Mustard/ Humphreys/ Plante/ Ustinkov
17) Burrows/ Kleber/ Muggli/ Vinni/ Zellers/ Nabokov
18) Pikkarainen/ Saarinen/ Spellacy/ Pitner/ Josephson/ Eliasson/ Shuravin/ Kos
19) Mateiko/ Muhonen/ Fibigr/ Soini/ Caswell
20) George/ Koivu/ Leenders/ Cristoforo
21) Villeneuve/ Zetterberg/ Wetsch/ Lavoie
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We may need a modern analogy - open to suggestions, CPers ; )

One of our 14 x Top 10s:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1801433063588495496
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Sandman's Final Draft Rankings (Top 100):

1) C Mack Celebrini
2) RW Ivan Demidov
3) D Artyom Levshunov
4) D Sam Dickinson
5) D Zeev Buium
6) LW Tij Iginla
7) D Zayne Parekh
8) D Anton Silayev
9) RW Beckett Sennecke
10) C Berkly Catton
11) D Carter Yakemchuk
12) C Cayden Lindstrom
13) C Konsta Helenius
14) C Cole Eiserman
15) C Michael Hage
16) LW Ivan Chernyshov
17) RW Liam Greentree
18) RW Ryder Ritchie
19) RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
20) LW Trevor Connelly
21) RW Yegor Surin
22) D Adam Jiricek
23) RW Emil Hemming
24) D Stian Solberg
25) C Jett Luchanko
26) RW Terik Parascak
27) D Alfons Freij
28) C Lucas Petterson
29) C Sacha Boisvert
30) D Cole Hutson
31) D Henry Mews
32) LW Nikita Artamonov

33) LW Marek Vanacker
34) D EJ Emery
35) RW Matvei Gridin
36) D Aron Kiviharju
37) D Leo Sahlin Wellenius
38) C Cole Beaudoin
39) LW Tanner Howe
40) C Dean Letourneau
41) LW Andrew Basha
42) RW Maxim Masse'
43) D Noel Franson
44) D Dominik Badinka
45) RW Sam O'Reilly
46) D Jesse Pulkkinen
47) D Charlie Elick
48) C Julius Miettinen
49) D Harrison Brunicke
50) C Linus Eriksson
51) RW Miguel Marques
52) C Luke Misa
53) D Spencer Gill
54) D Lukas Fischer
55) RW Justin Poirier
56) LW Teddy Stiga
57) RW Adam Jecho
58) RW Brodie Ziemer
59) D Ben Danford
60) C Simon Zether
61) C Raoul Boilard
62) C Kamil Bednarik
63) D Colton Roberts
64) D Veeti Vaisanen
65) D Luca Marrelli

66) D Will Skahan
67) D Tarin Smith
68) RW Jacob Battaglia
69) LW Melvin Fernstrom
70) LW John Mustard
71) C Christian Humphreys
72) LW Max Plante
73) D Daniil Ustinkov
74) LW Hagen Burrows
75) D Adam Kleber
76) D Leon Muggli
77) G Emil Vinni
78) LW Will Zellers
79) G Ilya Nabokov
80) RW Kasper Pikkarainen
81) G Kim Saarinen
82) C AJ Spellacy
83) D Tory Pitner
84) LW Ollie Josephson
85) D Gabriel Eliasson
86) D Matvei Shuravin
87) RW Ondrej Kos
88) LW Eriks Mateiko
89) D Niilopekka Muhonen
90) D Jakub Fibigr
91) D Sebastian Soini
92) C Clarke Caswell
93) G Carter George
94) C Aatos Koivu
95) G Ryerson Leenders
96) D Anthony Cristoforo
97) C Nathan Villeneuve

98) C Alexander Zetterberg
99) RW Carson Wetsch
100) Tomas Lavoie
Yes! Going to update the original post to save this awesomeness.

I love this Top 100. I'm a wee bit higher on Buium, Parekh, and Catton (but they are all pretty high on Sandman's list lol), oh and Basha (I work with his Aunt (an awesome nurse practitioner on our palliative care team) - their family is so, so stoked to be heading to Vegas for this. So excited for them, and she gives me countless updates (that I wish I could share but can't haha).
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CPHL Draft is today if youd like to watch
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Hey @Sandman, do you have a profile on Matvei Gridin? He seems like an intriguing prospect to me and seems to be ranked all over the place by the major publications.
Gentle, friendly reminder, all of Sandman amazing profiles can be found:

A) Embedded in our mammoth spreadsheet of rankings goodness (includes >400 prospects and tons of unique features) from rankings master E-Mac.
https://bit.ly/upside2024nhldraft

B) ~240 profiles on our prospect profile page which includes Sandman's "tiers" of prospects
https://bit.ly/2024nhldraftprofiles

This is all free, gang, a labour of love by the triumvirate of Sandman, E-Mac, and myself.

Our only ask, if you could and have a chance, share it with a friend or two, and a share on any of the socials would be a bonus. Much obliged. And if yah don't have time for that, just enjoy our stuff at Upside Hockey on our quest to uncover prospects with ridiculous upside...
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Another update at Upside!

Added:
- as mentioned added Sandman's latest 9 profiles putting us near 240 total!
- added Sandman's final "tiers" of prospects (on prospect profile page at the top)
- also added my mock draft to the mock draft page; might try and get a 2-3 round one done

Please enjoy!

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Here. We. Go.

Ahead of schedule, Upside Hockey's Final Rankings just released. I'll add this to the original post here as well.
* >400 prospects featured in our mammoth spreadsheet
* >220 profiles by Sandman!

Direct link:
https://bit.ly/upside2024nhldraft

https://twitter.com/user/status/1802069870663684486
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Another update at Upside!

Added:
- as mentioned added Sandman's latest 9 profiles putting us near 240 total!
- added Sandman's final "tiers" of prospects (on prospect profile page at the top)
- also added my mock draft to the mock draft page; might try and get a 2-3 round one done

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Anyone know if bars are playing the draft?
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Anyone know if bars are playing the draft?
Bow River brewing is. Fireside Chat is doing a live draft show there throughout the evening.
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CP draft party at Sandman’s penthouse
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Since most bars just keep TSN on half their TVs and Sportsnet on the other half, I assume it will be harder to find a bar that's not showing the draft than one that is.

Have the Flames ever hosted an "official draft party" like many other teams have done? I can't remember one, even in the Monahan, Bennett, Tkachuk years.
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Bow River brewing is. Fireside Chat is doing a live draft show there throughout the evening.

Sweet, I go there all the time
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Since most bars just keep TSN on half their TVs and Sportsnet on the other half, I assume it will be harder to find a bar that's not showing the draft than one that is.

Have the Flames ever hosted an "official draft party" like many other teams have done? I can't remember one, even in the Monahan, Bennett, Tkachuk years.

True, but lots of places dont have the volume up too.
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Loved the Barn Burner long form interview with Conny that popped up today.

Draft specific, He said there's tons of opportunities to move up or down in this wild draft. No one knows how it gonna shake out. Said they don't really have a guaranteed list after Celebrini as to who they're not going to be able to draft, it's that wide open. Which will make teams picking high more open to moving around in the top ten.

Also inferred that they're trying to move up from 28th and with the pick haul in 2024 alone they have to bullets to do it.

Said he wants a center, centers always the top of the list but they'll have to see how it goes, like if their list says a dman is clearly better they'll go that way. Reiterated this draft is a crap shoot. Just doesn't know how it will go or who's gonna be there. He just knows they're getting a good player no matter what at 9.

He said he didn't think this draft was that deep but then as he got into it more after the season he thinks is a really good deep draft.

Edit: Tij stuff. Boomer asked is he a center. Conroy beat around the bush a bit but definitely didn't sound like he thinks Tij is a center.
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