Stanley Cup: Florida Panthers [ATL1] vs Edmonton Oilers [PAC2] - Florida wins 4-3

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Joborule

I do think the notion that you have to tank in order to win is a bit overblown on this forum right now.

I think its underblown. You want championships, you need elite draft picks. You want generational talents, you need a shot at drafting them. There's no way around it. Every championship calibre team has had them. If you ever want to see a generational, or even exceptional talent in a Flames uniform, that is the path. Those are the players that do the things that win cups.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I woke up this morning think about how much I hate the Oilers.

But I think I almost hate the Panthers more now.

Next game will decide who I hate more lol
Tkachuk is such a loser against the Oilers, for the first time ever Oiler fans are right...he ran and hid from them
After all the Kassian stuff he has TWO chances to win the cup in Edmonton and THAT is the effort? Remember when Zito called him "generational"

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I think its underblown. You want championships, you need elite draft picks. You want generational talents, you need a shot at drafting them. There's no way around it. Every championship calibre team has had them. If you ever want to see a generational, or even exceptional talent in a Flames uniform, that is the path. Those are the players that do the things that win cups.

Relax we are getting 1st overall from Vegas in 26

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Next game will decide who I hate more lol
Tkachuk is such a loser against the Oilers, for the first time ever Oiler fans a right...he ran and hid from them

Tkachoke

Matthew Tkachoke

"Going to Florida to win multiple cups"

Lose multiple cups you meant, right Matty?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Flames fans gonna boo Tkachuk mercilessly when panthers play in Calgary again for letting this happen.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It takes time to build a quality team that can go deep in the playoffs consistently. The Avalanche started in 2009 with Duchene, the Panthers in 2011 with Huberdeau, the Lightning in 2008 with Stamkos, the Oilers in 2010 with Hall.

Flames ownership (and we as fans) ought to learn from what has happened, and do better. Throwing shade at/discrediting the “plan” of other teams that have been emphatically better than our team is a futile exercise. You may disagree with the Oilers/Avalanche/Panthers/Lightning approach, but those teams have better players and have found more success than our team. The NHL draft is a structural system that rewards teams for putting in the effort (sucking, which is a hard process for an organization and their fans to endure), and working within/making use of that system is how you build a winner.

Every generational player wins a cup, pretty much without exception. Flames should definitely follow the plan of getting one of those. Shouldn't be too hard.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Vedder

Every generational player wins a cup, pretty much without exception. Flames should definitely follow the plan of getting one of those. Shouldn't be too hard.

Yep, Flames should aim to be the worst team in the league for 5-10 years.

A generational player is bound to come along in that amount of time, and then all they have to do is not lose the lottery that year or hope they haven't already disqualified themselves from winning it by already winning a few of them in recent years.

[dino7c]

We have Panthers fans who have posted here constantly for the past 2+ years...all throughout the playoffs last year and this until a few days ago.

Get back online and tell us what the hell is going on.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yep, Flames should aim to be the worst team in the league for 5-10 years.

A generational player is bound to come along in that amount of time, and then all they have to do is not lose the lottery that year or hope they haven't already disqualified themselves from winning it by already winning a few of them in recent years.

Well even if you lose the lottery, you get an Eichel.
The Flames picks will be very high the next 2 years, so we'll at least put this theory to the test.

[iamca]

This is more about Florida falling apart in game 4 and beyond.

Florida has made it easier for any opponent to change the momentum and even the series.

I said it before, but when you have an opportunity to put your opponent away, there can’t be any mercy, doubt, and you have to want it more than the other team.

Somehow Florida has managed to squander 3 games and they have a repeating pattern:

Give up the first goal
Get down by 3 or more goals
Lose the goaltending battle
Lose on special teams

Florida must eliminate 3 of these 4 patterns to have a chance in game 7 and it’s on all of them not just Bob, the D, their PP and PK, their “on-ice leaders”, and their coaching staff.


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[dino7c]

Game 5 they played okay, Bob sucked
hopefully they can play a decent home game...forget the comeback though they are VERY lucky this thing isn't over...they were lucky to be up 3-0 in the first place and they are lucky to have a game 7 at home for the cup. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and win a ####ing game!

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Joborule

I do think the notion that you have to tank in order to win is a bit overblown on this forum right now.

Interesting perspective, considering every cup winner in the last decade plus basically has rostered a lottery ball player.

I think if anything, what this shows us is that the only way to win is to tank and get elite players. Edmonton tanked and it worked for them. Colorado tanked and it worked for them. Eichel got traded to Vegas and they won. Chicago tanked. Pittsburgh tanked. The Kings tanked. Tampa tanked.

You have to tank to win a cup.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Some teams tank and will never make it to game 7 of the finals to be honest. Just look at the leafs.

You're finally coming around to admitting you're an Oilers fan.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Interesting perspective, considering every cup winner in the last decade plus basically has rostered a lottery ball player.

I think if anything, what this shows us is that the only way to win is to tank and get elite players. Edmonton tanked and it worked for them. Colorado tanked and it worked for them. Eichel got traded to Vegas and they won. Chicago tanked. Pittsburgh tanked. The Kings tanked. Tampa tanked.

You have to tank to win a cup.

Doesn't every team have a lottery ball player on their roster?

[Geeoff]

At the end of the day, Flames were out months ago, so we lost the ability to control the result of the Stanley Cup Final, so from that perspective, there's nothing to get upset about.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

At the end of the day, Flames were out months ago, so we lost the ability to control the result of the Stanley Cup Final, so from that perspective, there's nothing to get upset about.

I don't think any of us ever had that power...

[Zary's-Mustache]

People talking about Tkachuk but bennett seems like he's lost out there.

It's like he became a calgary flame again in the Finals.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

People talking about Tkachuk but bennett seems like he's lost out there.

It's like he became a calgary flame again in the Finals.

Their entire roster looks lost. The moment I guess was too big for them.

Unless they all get hypnotized and convinced that this isn't the cup finals, they have no chance Monday.

[Brick]

Something about this series doesn't pass the smell test.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

They walked around in the desert for 5 years and then lucked out and won the McLottery. They had no business winning that one either. Typical NHL changing the rules right at a key moment when a generational player is draft eligible.

Then it still took them 9 years to get to the finals. They only have 4 players left on the roster that were on the roster in McDavid's rookie year.

That is not a plan.

Ya! Suck it Jake haha