[Trade] Markstrom (31.25% retained) traded to NJ for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) and Bahl

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by browna

Conroy held all the cards and control and a clearly dealing with a desperate Devils team.

Sure, he listened to other teams, but Markstrom’s value could’ve gone up if another particular team didn’t get an intended UFA goalie or defenseman on July 1. The Devils weren’t going anywhere on Markstrom, two days ago or two weeks from now.

If the Devils wanted to do this deal now, as opposed to 13 days from now, IMO they should’ve paid a further premium.

Conroy had zero cards, as Marky wanted to only go to NJ.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Conroy had zero cards, as Marky wanted to only go to NJ.

Several reports have said Markstrom was willing to consider other locations. He certainly was allowing Conroy to talk about possible trades with other teams.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Conroy had zero cards, as Marky wanted to only go to NJ.

He did have a card. It was the #### you then. You're staying here card.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Some Leafs writer with a scathing indictment of Conroy.

Gives him an F on this trade.

https://flip.it/w96Wdd

Calls for Conroy to be fired following a series of disastrous trades that have set back our rebuild for years.

That guy just sounds pissed that Treliving is the Leafs gm. Tre should have been able to beat that terrible offer

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by memphusk

He did have a card. It was the #### you then. You're staying here card.

I don’t know if having a disgruntled goalie would be good for the room

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by BigThief

You're very well connected

The funniest part about it is that you are trying to prove him wrong with a guy from twitter who also isn’t a media guy

[dino7c]

What did Vegas get for MAF again?
These media guys are something else

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Several reports have said Markstrom was willing to consider other locations. He certainly was allowing Conroy to talk about possible trades with other teams.

Maybe. But if not…
They could align on that message for all parties to save face

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Bonded

That guy just sounds pissed that Treliving is the Leafs gm. Tre should have been able to beat that terrible offer

Dislike Tre now?

Wait until you see the process play out lol

His long game is something else

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Has he been playing against hobbits in the AHL?

Doesn't need to be. The NHL is a more skilled faster game where guys are bigger and make plays faster.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I'm a person of English as second language, I just don't know how to pronounce it. Why do you have to spin it like I'm making fun of his name?

For what it's worth, a lot of people probably don't realize English is a second language for you because you write clearly, practically like a native speaker. I recall when you first came aboard and the improvement is very noticeable. Not that I ever had trouble understanding what you were getting at, but you could tell sometimes. Not so much these days.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Doesn't need to be. The NHL is a more skilled faster game where guys are bigger and make plays faster.

Are they, in fact, bigger in the NHL? Faster I grant you, but ‘being able to see around NHL forwards’ is an odd thing to expect him to have trouble with.

Much smaller men than Wolf have been perfectly good NHL goalies. A bigger goalie covers more of the net, but it's not as if a slightly smaller one needs to stand on a box to see the play.

[Newton]

Before the season started it looked like the Flames were hamstrung by Markstroms contract and poor play - then he raised his value and made the club better.

I think they just stole Christmas, none of this rebuild will feel good if all these draft picks are Rico Fata level flops though.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The funniest part about it is that you are trying to prove him wrong with a guy from twitter who also isn’t a media guy

Wasn't an attempt to prove him wrong was simply referencing back to a post I assumed jayswin meant. I also think cmpdave is a fraud

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Newton

Before the season started it looked like the Flames were hamstrung by Markstroms contract and poor play - then he raised his value and made the club better.

I think they just stole Christmas, none of this rebuild will feel good if all these draft picks are Rico Fata level flops though.

Yes, the draft is the key. If they can’t draft, all of this means ####.
These are not premium picks. Quantity is not equal quality.

I am skeptical of the Honzek pick so far but willing to wait and see

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes, the draft is the key. If they can’t draft, all of this means ####.
These are not premium picks. Quantity is not equal quality.

I am skeptical of the Honzek pick so far but willing to wait and see

Oh, good.

I don’t know what our plan B would be if you weren’t willing to wait and see

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Oh, good.

I don’t know what our plan B would be if you weren’t willing to wait and see

It’s a long game

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by memphusk

He did have a card. It was the #### you then. You're staying here card.

That’s not a card, as it simply slows the rebuild.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I listen to his show and Steinberg was never suggesting that a first wasn’t the discussion. Even he was talking about adding our 28th to get their 10th as part of his hypothetical. I’ve noted previously I’m not into his ‘surprise’ at the Flames getting a first of some kind… that’s all he was talking about for weeks.

Anyways, we got the first and a big body. I’m happy.

I'm guessing you didn't listen to his show yesterday.

[Enoch Root]

The whole talk about Wolf not being able to see over NHL forwards is ridiculous.

Goalies don't look 'over' players, they look around them. How tall do you have to be to look over another player? If the forward is 6', you would need to be at least 6'8"

As mentioned, there are other goalies that are roughly Wolf's height in the NHL. Size definitely matters to be clear, and smaller goalies are going to have larger holes over their shoulders, for instance. So there are things Wolf is going to have to overcome, due to his size.

But 'looking over NHL forwards' is not one of them.