2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I really hope all these first-round picks don’t start burning a hole in Conny’s pocket. Make the picks Conny!!! Don’t trade them for “now” pieces!

I think Conny has a plan and it involves at least a couple of picks in his pocket. He's not gonna burn through them all but I think he has enough to pry a young center from somebody.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think Conny has a plan and it involves at least a couple of picks in his pocket. He's not gonna burn through them all but I think he has enough to pry a young center from somebody.

The only somewhat reliable way to get an elite young center would be to draft via a lottery pick.

This wouldn't have much to do with a trade.

I think the picks are more likely to be used on other things.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think Conny has a plan and it involves at least a couple of picks in his pocket. He's not gonna burn through them all but I think he has enough to pry a young center from somebody.

Not sure how he's going to accomplish that as teams tend not to trade those types of players. Mercer isn't even a top 6 center for the Devils but no matter how hard Conroy tried to get him, they simply weren't going to trade him because it's such a high value position. I imagine he realizes by now that the only way he's going to get a really good young center is to draft one.

[Bonded]

Yeah, the only hope they would have is correctly identifying a player who is on the outs with his current team and pops once he is traded for cheap. The old Bennett trade.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Reasons I wouldn't want the Flames to sign DeBrusk:

1. He shoots left, and we only have 1 right shot(Kuzmenko) in the top 9
2. As a player with a big ticket, he would take a spot away from a prospect in the top 9, and on the PP... probably for the next 3+ years.
3. DeBrusk is more of what we already have in Mangiapane, and Coleman. A dependable 40-55P winger, that has about 30P 5on5.

Obviously, if the Flames sign him, then I would cheer for the guy. The same way I did with Coleman, Frolik, Versteeg, and to a lesser extant Neal, and Brouwer.

1. Corronato shoots right and I’d bet he’s in the mix this year. Also, Flames should/need to be thinking long term. They should not be fixated on handedness at this point. They should be fixated on acquiring players that fit into their 5-8 year plan.

2.big ticket? What are we talking about? 5 years, 6? What are you thinking he’s worth?

3. From almost all accounts I heard, specifically Steinberg, Mangiapanne is going to be traded. He wants out. I also suspect, strongly, that at least one of Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, and perhaps Coleman are moved this season as well. There will be spots. Further, I don’t think the Flames want to trot out a roster of 20 year olds. I think they see the value in having vets on the roster and, even better, ones that want to be here.

To me, this is exactly the type of UFA they should pursue. In part due to his age and his desire to want to play here, or closer to home. He fits. Plus they get the benefit of adding assets in moving those, Msngiapanne specifically, who don’t.

[442scotty]

I think Mangiapane is gone if the Flames find a willing trade partner. He just looks lost out there sometimes. I don’t expect much of a return. Debrusk would be a great addition for the right price.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Sign bodies you can flip for assets. Time to recover from the Treliving era and restock the system.

[Ashasx]

nm wrong thread

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, the only hope they would have is correctly identifying a player who is on the outs with his current team and pops once he is traded for cheap. The old Bennett trade.

The one guy I keep coming back to is Pinto. It is going to be a mess for Ottawa to get him under contract.

Alternatively and much more risky a move, would they off load the Norris contract for nothing? Even worth it at this point?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Major Major

The one guy I keep coming back to is Pinto. It is going to be a mess for Ottawa to get him under contract.

Alternatively and much more risky a move, would they off load the Norris contract for nothing? Even worth it at this point?

Pinto is interesting. I don't think I'd touch the Norris contract.

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by dammage79

You know, Conroy still hasn't gone out and acquired his primary target yet in that of a 23 or younger Center.

Kind of want to build a list of them that fit the bill.

Anton Lundell
Shane Wright
Trevor Zegras
Dylan Cozens
Kent Johnson
Cole Sillinger
Danila Yurov
Connor Geekie
Nate Danielson
Marco Kasper

Can Conny swing for one of those or any other?

Geekie is the one out of that list. I'd trade Anderson and Vancouver first to get him under contract. With Hayton and Coolie as the likely 1-2 Centers there might be something there to work with.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by TOfan

1. Corronato shoots right and I’d bet he’s in the mix this year. Also, Flames should/need to be thinking long term. They should not be fixated on handedness at this point. They should be fixated on acquiring players that fit into their 5-8 year plan.

2.big ticket? What are we talking about? 5 years, 6? What are you thinking he’s worth?

3. From almost all accounts I heard, specifically Steinberg, Mangiapanne is going to be traded. He wants out. I also suspect, strongly, that at least one of Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, and perhaps Coleman are moved this season as well. There will be spots. Further, I don’t think the Flames want to trot out a roster of 20 year olds. I think they see the value in having vets on the roster and, even better, ones that want to be here.

To me, this is exactly the type of UFA they should pursue. In part due to his age and his desire to want to play here, or closer to home. He fits. Plus they get the benefit of adding assets in moving those, Msngiapanne specifically, who don’t.

This is exactly what they should be doing. I've said many times most years 65-70 points gets you bottom 3. Debrusk can be added and if your a fan of getting top picks, we can add Debrusk and get that top pick.

You need to weigh out the assets and the contracts, hard for a fan to do without being involved in the process but if Debrusk wants to sign here, the contract likely is better than what it takes to convince someone who wants to see what the market is offering. If Debrusk signs a good deal but Mangiapane, Kuzmenko and Sharangovich all are looking for the biggest payday they can get, Debrusk and his new contract are probably more valuable to the Flames then any of them. Then we gain assets trading players away.

Maybe we will hate the Debrusk contract, but usually when a player has 1 destination in mind, that contract is worth it for the team.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Geekie is the one out of that list. I'd trade Anderson and Vancouver first to get him under contract. With Hayton and Coolie as the likely 1-2 Centers there might be something there to work with.

Lol. wut...?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Geekie is the one out of that list. I'd trade Anderson and Vancouver first to get him under contract. With Hayton and Coolie as the likely 1-2 Centers there might be something there to work with.

I don't see why any of these guys are available. We aren't getting young potential stars who are still on ELCs or yet to play an NHL game.

We will be getting proven guys who are RFA's and teams might be willing to move them due to contract talks not going well or less proven players who have a few seasons under the belt and have yet to break out but could.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Next targets:

Top 15 pick
Necas
Zegras
Laine
Defenseman

Fixed it.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Fixed it.

We probably don't need a dman either, unless it's a young Norris caliber dman who wants to sign 8 years in Calgary. We are fine on depth dmen.

[BigFlameDog]

I don't understand why some include Sharangovich in their proposals so nonchalant. That is a guy we want to keep big time IMO. Wasn't it already explained that his locker room clean out comments were more of a language issue than anything? Keep that dude.

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Can Conny swing for one of those or any other?

Anton Lundell - maybe, if Florida decides to keep all of their free agents they'll need to make space, he could be the odd one out.

Shane Wright - Doubtful, was just named an "AHL Top Prospect". I'd expect Seattle's excited to get him to camp this year.

Trevor Zegras - Most likely of the list I think. But I don't want him. Reads as a me-first one dimensional scorer. Maybe he'd put some butts in seats through the rebuild/retool though?

Dylan Cozens - Doubtful Buffalo moves him.

Kent Johnson - Maybe? Tough to gauge his trajectory right now after a rough season.

Cole Sillinger - I think he's who Columbus would rather keep over Johsnon.

Danila Yurov - he's playing in the KHL next season so probably a non-starter.

Connor Geekie - Might be an option as he's behind a couple guys on their depth chart now.

Nate Danielson - Really doubt the Wings move on from him before he even gets his feet wet in the NHL

Marco Kasper - Maybe. But similar to Danielson I think they'll want to see what they have in him vs. NHLers first.

[dustygoon]

Why trade Mang now? His value will never be lower.

Sounds like he is coming off a shoulder injury (kept dislocating?). His numbers this year are pretty solid if that is the case.

Unless you get a great offer, why not let the year play out? Maybe he gets on a heater.

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Originally Posted by dustygoon

Why trade Mang now? His value will never be lower.

Sounds like he is coming off a shoulder injury (kept dislocating?). His numbers this year are pretty solid if that is the case.

Unless you get a great offer, why not let the year play out? Maybe he gets on a heater.

Comes down to if the rumors are true that he "wants out" or has actually requested a trade. If that's the case then you may as well move him as you don't want that around the room and if he's playing pouty he's not going to improve the return later anyway.

My guess is he's traded between now and the draft.