[Trade] Markstrom (31.25% retained) traded to NJ for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) and Bahl

[Hoop27]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Something in the works with the Capitals?

[Wastedyouth]

Let's not forget everyone thought Miramanov was simply a throw in.

And yet he, in a small sample size, showed he was not.

Bahl is 23. Got his first real minutes in NJ and was one of their better Defensive d players.

Look at his stats 5v5. He was solid if not great. You take that at 23 and build on it.

[InternationalVillager]

Call me crazy but I think Sharangovich would fetch a 1st round pick if traded today....so Toffoli kinda did get a 1st.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Bahl is what he is, a bottom pairing dman for a team that needs NHL bodies.
He won't change the fortunes of this team.
But with this defense and a Wolf/Vladar tandem - this could be a bottom 5 team.
That's what changes the fortunes.

The Flames are also a team full of kids now. They need a few large bodies to make sure other teams don't take liberties with them.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1803486696417190253

[FlamesAddiction]

A top 10 pick for Markstrom always seemed like a pipe dream to me. All in all I think this is a pretty good return.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Icon

No.

If Florida's 2025 1st isn't a lottery pick, Calgary gets Florida's 2025 1st round pick.
If that happens:
- If Calgary's 2025 pick isn't top 10, Montreal gets the better of Calgary & Florida's 2025 1st round picks.
- If Calgary's 2025 pick is top 10, Montreal gets Florida's 2025 1st round pick.

If Florida's 2025 1st is a lottery pick, Calgary gets Florida's 2026 1st instead.
If that happens:
- If Calgary's 2025 pick is not top 10, Montreal gets Calgary's 2025 1st round pick.
- If Calgary's 2025 pick is 2nd-10th, Montreal gets Calgary's 2025 1st round pick.
- If Calgary's 2025 pick is 1st overall, Montreal gets Calgary's 2025 3rd and the better of the the 2026 1st between Calgary & Florida

Could this be cleaned up to if Flames 2025 is 2-32, then Montreal gets Calgary's pick?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Call me crazy but I think Sharangovich would fetch a 1st round pick if traded today....so Toffoli kinda did get a 1st.

Are we playing make believe now?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Ha sorry man. Just really lean into the Cats fandom. I do genuinely think that it's unlikely they miss the playoffs with the crew they have, but am a bit worried about it with how badly they are tanking in the finals now and the kind of marks that could leave. But immensely talented team.

lol I am actually more confused about the conditions now. Maybe it is if the Panthers win the lottery otherwise there wouldn't be anything about Montreal getting the better of the Flames and Florida non top ten picks.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Minus prospects

Weegar
Andersson
Miromanov
Bahl
Pachal
Hanley

Kylington free agent assuming will sign
Gilbert free agent betting won’t sign

What if prospects are included? I assume there might be a ton of competition in the pre-season or some of these players may be moved out.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1803486696417190253

Treleving strikes again. What a schlub haha

[Puppet Guy]

I need new glasses - I saw Kevin Dahl instead of Bahl and thought he'd retired decades ago

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1803486696417190253

[Aarongavey]

So as part of the retool effort and trying to stay competitive now Conroy has accumulated

3 first round picks
1 second round pick
3 third round picks
1 fourth round pick
1 fifth round pick
A 20 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 19 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 21 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 23 year old dman
A 25 year old winger
A 26 year old dman
A 27 year old forward at the time of the trade

13 assets under the age of 24 by my count and 3 assets older than 24.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I’m just saying that there appear to be some here who are never happy and this time it’s because they don’t believe this is a rebuild. When it kind of seems rather obvious to many of us that it is.
That said, it’s really likely that this team will be no where near competitive for quite a while and it will be on us to buy a lot of tickets during that time

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

So as part of the retool effort and trying to stay competitive now Conroy has accumulated

3 first round picks
1 second round pick
3 third round picks
1 fourth round pick
1 fifth round pick
A 20 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 19 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 21 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 23 year old dman
A 25 year old winger
A 26 year old dman
A 27 year old forward at the time of the trade

13 assets under the age of 24 by my count and 3 assets older than 24.

And a buttload of cap space so he can spend like a crazy person on July 1.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

So as part of the retool effort and trying to stay competitive now Conroy has accumulated

3 first round picks
1 second round pick
3 third round picks
1 fourth round pick
1 fifth round pick
A 20 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 19 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 21 year old dman at the time of the trade
A 23 year old dman
A 25 year old winger
A 26 year old dman
A 27 year old forward at the time of the trade

13 assets under the age of 24 by my count and 3 assets older than 24.

Yes, very good work by Conrory so far.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Any indication yet regarding the protection around the first?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Minus prospects

Weegar
Andersson
Miromanov
Bahl
Pachal
Hanley

Kylington free agent assuming will sign
Gilbert free agent betting won’t sign

When I see that Written down it doesn't look that bad... I mean we have three T4 Defensmen in that list (Kylington was in our T4 before his mental health problems) + Bahl and Miromanov. We lack a true #1D in there and still need to see if Kylington get get back to where he was pre-struggles (and sans Tanev which is important).

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I'm surprised that many of us are disappointed with the return here...why the high expectatioms?

A 1st round pick and a decent young, controllable defenseman seems pretty good for a 35 year old goaltender who re-built his value last season.

This is great asset management. We have 6 first round picks in the next 3 years.

If the Flames really want to grab another top 10 pick this year, they have the currency to do so.

Yeah especially with a goaltender with a full non movement clause and the ability to say no to every team but one (or all teams).

I said it well before this went down.

10 overall is the home run return.
25th 1st is the silver medal return.

Moving Markstrom period was already a good new story for where this team needs to go.