[Trade] Markstrom (31.25% retained) traded to NJ for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) and Bahl

[GullFoss]

I have to think Kadri is next to go. Salary cap has gone up and he had a great season. He's also has a game that translates well to the playoffs. And I can't imagine he wants to stick around for this rebuild.

Makes sense to move on and find him a home elsewhere.

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Any 1st is good for Markstrom and 2 1st's this year and next is also good.
Full rebuild status also good.
Good Good; but we will be really bad (which is good).

Only good if we are bad enough to one day be good enough.


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[CSharp]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1803462578573611161

Dammit, I re-read this and it's a 2025 first rounder. Thought it was this year. The deal is kind of lame since the Devils likely won't be a bottom feeder but might be contending for the Cup. Should've waited until someone is more desperate.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I have to think Kadri is next to go. Salary cap has gone up and he had a great season. He's also has a game that translates well to the playoffs. And I can't imagine he wants to stick around for this rebuild.

Makes sense to move on and find him a home elsewhere.

I'll take that bet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just waiting on someone to chime and let us know that Kevin Bahl shows us that Conroy is not rebuilding, but retooling on the fly and making the playoffs next season.

Getting a 3rd pairing D for our starting goalie is a great start.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

CP Before TDL: Markstrom is an elite goalie, has one of the best goals saved above expected. 1st and Mercer absolutely needs to be pieces coming back. Anything less is a fail.

CP Today: Markstrom is 34 and aging. Getting a 1st is a great deal.

There was just as many people saying that Mercer alone was a complete pipedream.

This is a good trade for Calgary. If people were expecting more than this, I don't know what to tell them.

[Buzzard]

Haven’t gone through previous comments yet, but two things stand out for me.
We’ve got some pretty decent D prospects now. I’m thinking forward, particularly centre prospects are likely the priority in next week’s draft. Also, considering two seasons ago we were talking trading Markstrom for a bag of pucks, this trade looks pretty ok.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Sec214

it's officially a rebuild

embrace it, Flames

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Matty81

This year's crop of UFAs who will be gone for picks and futures if they don't get re-signed:
Mangiapane
Kuzmenko
Sharangovich (most likely to be re-signed I'm guessing)
Rooney
Duehr
Hunt
Vladar

Probably more of the same, late or conditional 1sts is the best case scenario I think

I can see Flames keeping Kuzmenko and Sharangovich. We're building a little mini Team Russia and both these players improved coming to the Flames

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

In most of the deals Conroy has made, the Flames got a decent roster player back - Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and Bahl are all solid NHLers. Management is not stripping it down to the studs - they want to ice a competitive team every season. The playoffs are probably a long shot next season, but this isn’t a team that’s deliberately aiming for a bottom-of-the-league finish.

Bottom of league teams all have guys like those players. San Jose had Duclair to start the season. Chicago traded for Beauvillier.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

CP Before TDL: Markstrom is an elite goalie, has one of the best goals saved above expected. 1st and Mercer absolutely needs to be pieces coming back. Anything less is a fail.

CP Today: Markstrom is 34 and aging. Getting a 1st is a great deal.

Not everyone believed he was worth Mercer + a 1st.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Just waiting on someone to chime and let us know that Kevin Bahl shows us that Conroy is not rebuilding, but retooling on the fly and making the playoffs next season.

Getting a 3rd pairing D for our starting goalie is a great start.

Conroy is already the one saying that.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Kevin Bahl >> Kevin Dahl

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...y.php?pid=1225

Came here to make the 55+ joke. Well done.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I wonder if they went after Bahl because negotiations with Kylington aren't working out

I agree with Warrener on BB when he gave his opinion that one side is not happy with the deal or the ask. Kylington has indicated he wants to stay, Flames have indicated the same. So there's a disagreement on the dollar or term.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

It feels like a bit of a miss seeing as 28th and Markstrom for 10th seemed to make a ton of sense. I dont HATE the deal, but im not happy

We'll probably see NJ move the 10th in another trade.
They know they can get more than Markstrom +28 for that and still had a way to get Markstrom.
Have to think from NJ's perspective too.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Not everyone believed he was worth Mercer + a 1st.

Plus TDL was a different scenario - NJD had a shot at the POs.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

CP Before TDL: Markstrom is an elite goalie, has one of the best goals saved above expected. 1st and Mercer absolutely needs to be pieces coming back. Anything less is a fail.

CP Today: Markstrom is 34 and aging. Getting a 1st is a great deal.

Nah, there was a pretty big contingent that was getting yelled for saying Mercer or the 10th overall was never coming back. This is a pretty good trade for a goalie. Schneider was the last goalie to return a top ten pick and he was 25 and playing lights out.

[8sPOT]

Great trade for the Flames. I don’t get the indifference towards Bahl. I think he’s a legit dman and is 24 years old, 6’6”, 230lbs. Plus a 1st round pick?
Heck of a deal, considering Markstrom really controlled his destiny.

Would expect the Devils to do much better next year, but if they don’t that pick would slide to 2026 right? Meaning we would have 3 first round picks all unprotected in 2026.

I like this trade a lot. And like how Conroy has brought in a bunch of dmen.

Wonder who might be next, feels a like a draft day trade could be a real possibility too. Mangiapanne maybe?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Conroy is already the one saying that.

He did?

[Aarongavey]

So the backend (barring an Andersson trade) is

Miromanov - Weegar
Bahl - Andersson
Kylington - Pachal/Hanley

With Hunter, Poirier, Solovyov, kuznetsov, grushnikov knocking on the door in the minors.

It is another rebuilding trade, another young asset and a pick coming coming back. Really wonder if Conroy is exploring options with Andersson. He has a bit of a NHL defence now and could possibly trade Rasmus for more rebuilding pieces and pick up a UFA to replace Rasmus.