[Rumour] LeBrun: Flames, Devils reignite Markstrom trade talks (again); other teams interested

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

If the Devils are looking for a top-6 forward - someone reliable and seasoned - then Coleman is the obvious choice (I just don’t see Mangiapane as a fit for them). He used to play in NJ, so he’d likely waive his NMC. The issues would be cap hit, and whether the Flames want to create another big hole in their roster.

I'd be pushing hard for Coleman if I were New Jersey. He's the perfect add for that team with where they're at. But he's not at all a throw-in, and he has a no trade clause, so he'd be a hard piece to figure out in a deal.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Muta

My guess - the Flames want both Iginla and Yakemchuk.

And if Yak goes early, Iginla Catton would be my choice. Completely revamp the forward cupboards, and then use 28 and the 2nds all on dmen

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

I'd be pushing hard for Coleman if I were New Jersey. He's the perfect add for that team with where they're at. But he's not at all a throw-in, and he has a no trade clause, so he'd be a hard piece to figure out in a deal.

Agreed he wouldn’t be a throw-in. But if they’re looking to bring in a top-six forward anyway, he could be a part of an expanded trade with the Flames. I think the big obstacle would be the contract.

[tremorchrist]

[QUOTE=TOfanIf Tij Iginla or Carter Yakumcuk is available at, say, 10, I would have to say it’s highly likely that is a better prospect than the players that will be available at 28.[/QUOTE]



No s*** Sherlock

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Yes, he absolutely is.

He had a couple of very solid years of college hockey, and a half season of AHL hockey, where he absolutely did light the world on fire (he was 12th leading scorer on a point per game basis and second youngest on that list behind only Logan Stankoven), and he played 34 NHL games this past year. The guy has been perfectly seasoned for a breakout or a big step this coming year or two depending how his offseason goes.

I doubt the Flames would even consider his name in a trade with the time they've put into him and where he is at.

Number 10 is an attractive asset, but it's still just a magic bean (just like the 13th overall pick was three years ago), and the player picked there most likely will need a few years of seasoning.

This boredom with prospects that don't automatically light it up as soon as they step into the show is really odd to me. Look at most stars in the NHL. It takes a few years for them to hit their strid.

So that doesn't apply to Holtz? They are comparable prospects at this point. They may fit each others teams needs well and I think it makes sense. I am not bored of Coronato. I think he's a very good prospect with lots of runway left. But to those who think we are painlessly getting the 10th, I think you are dreaming. Sometimes good trades sting a little.

[CliffFletcher]

If the Flames are getting the 10th OA and Holtz back, they’re giving up more than just Markstrom. It will be a bigger deal with multiple pieces on both sides.

[BrownDrake]

Originally Posted by Major Major

How do we feel about Markstrom and Coronato for 10 and Holtz?

I think Coronato for the 10th overall is a straight across trade, fits the NJ age group better than an 18 year old maybe and is from the area, they should do that just not sure we would, I'd be ok with that personally.


Then Trade Markstrom retained and Andersson to Ottawa for the 7th overall.


We pick 7, 9 & 10 I'd love that in my dreamworld lol



7 - Catton/Lindstrom
9 - Iginla
10 - Yakemchuk/Dickenson

[Braden]

I would be curious if Ottawa would even more there first round pick this year, looks like next year's unprotected goes to Utah for the Chychrun trade and then that forces them to forfeit the 2026 1st pick due to the invalid Dandonov trade. I get that they want something to help now but perhaps the new GM would like to make the pick

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Nothing is going to be announced until after the final just out of respect which isn't anything new.

Lots of people getting very upset about this trade not happening and how the value will be garbage for various reasons regarding Markstrom's value. I'd ask you take into consideration that Markstrom hates this speculation more than any of us and he's the only one being impacted by this. Don't stress!

1. Markstrom wants to play for a contender, preferably out east.
2. Markstrom had reaffirmed his consideration for NJD
3. Markstrom doesn't want to be shopped around, I know some dislike this but he controls where he goes. Yes Markstrom knows that if he doesn't like this then he's stuck in Calgary for now and he knows this. It really comes down to power to go where he wants or power to stay put because he doesn't dislike Calgary.
4. Both Markstrom and CGY want this to be over sooner rather than later, no desire to go into the season with this still lingering.

I'm told there's still a deal in principle in place, it still involves the NJD and it still involves the pick. Retention is still required and there's been back and forth discussion about various additional pieces from both sides. The Devils would like to add on both the backend and up front in the top 6 with the #1 Goalie being the primary requirement.

Flames looking to see if they can help NJ out with an additional piece, I have no confirmation what the additional(s) are - but feel like Holtz is still looking to be added.

Just another reason to have the finals end ASAP

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Braden

I would be curious if Ottawa would even more there first round pick this year, looks like next year's unprotected goes to Utah for the Chychrun trade and then that forces them to forfeit the 2026 1st pick due to the invalid Dandonov trade. I get that they want something to help now but perhaps the new GM would like to make the pick

They do not owe a 1st in the Chychrun trade, that was given up last year.

[Royle9]

The Flames are very high on Coronato, I don't think he's being shopped.

[Bingo Jr.]

Originally Posted by Royle9

The Flames are very high on Coronato, I don't think he's being shopped.

Good. His name shouldn't even come up in trade speculation.

[TheIronMaiden]

I have a hunch the Flames may flip the Vancouver pick in the Markstrom Deal to increase the return. Especially if a top 15 pick is returning.

[Yeah_Baby]

Peak Flames fan life would be the Oilers winning four straight and because of the extra time the Marky deal falls apart.

We're made to suffer, it's our lot in life.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I have a hunch the Flames may flip the Vancouver pick in the Markstrom Deal to increase the return. Especially if a top 15 pick is returning.

I agree, especially with the optics of moving down 18 spots vs completely giving up 10th for a goalie

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I was trying to come up with a trade that landed the Flames the 7th pick but allowed them to keep 9. Not sure if Ottawa does this?

To Sens: Markstrom (33% retained)+ Mangiapane (50% retained) + 28th overall + 41st overall
To Flames: Korpisalo (4x4 remaining) + Joseph (2x2.9 remaining) +7th overall

The Sens get the goalie they are after and come out of this deal cap neutral. Mangiapane retained makes the same as Joseph and expires this year instead of next and they get Marky at $4M and dump Korpisalo fully. They get the Vancouver 1st and Flames 2nd. Flames get the 7th overall pick by retaining on 2 players, eating a couple of overpriced contracts and giving up a late 1st and early 2nd.


Another trade I thought about:

Markstrom+9+28
For
7+25+Brannstrom

Ottawa doesn’t really have the cap to make that work unless dumping bodies elsewhere.

I think this would completely decimate the Flames blue line but I believe the Senators had previously inquired about Weegar. Given he’s a RHS D, local guy to Ottawa and on an increasingly affordable cap hit he could fit well there.

Wonder what Markstrom and Weegar could look like.

Or maybe the Flames take a D back? As a frame work

Markstrom & Weegar
7OA & Chabot/Chykrun

Ottawa likely asks for a pick back. Maybe 28 or a second depending on whether it’s Chabot or Chykrun

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

The Flames are very high on Coronato, I don't think he's being shopped.

I also think it’s important the Flames turn the narrative that Americans don’t want to play/stay here. It’s important, I think, Wolf and Coronato are here long term.


….and Hagens too.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

The Flames are very high on Coronato, I don't think he's being shopped.

nm, double post

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think this would completely decimate the Flames blue line but I believe the Senators had previously inquired about Weegar. Given he’s a RHS D, local guy to Ottawa and on an increasingly affordable cap hit he could fit well there.

Wonder what Markstrom and Weegar could look like.

Or maybe the Flames take a D back? As a frame work

Markstrom & Weegar
7OA & Chabot/Chykrun

Ottawa likely asks for a pick back. Maybe 28 or a second depending on whether it’s Chabot or Chykrun

I would want the 7th pick + for Weegar. He is signed to a great co tract coming off 20 goals and 52pts. The fact he has a NMC and has been on various podcasts discussing how he wants people who want to be here. I just can’t see Weegar being traded he feels like the Gio of this rebuild.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

If the Devils are looking for a top-6 forward - someone reliable and seasoned - then Coleman is the obvious choice (I just don’t see Mangiapane as a fit for them). He used to play in NJ, so he’d likely waive his NMC. The issues would be cap hit, and whether the Flames want to create another big hole in their roster.

Mangiapane makes the most sense when contracts are factored.