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Old 06-14-2024, 11:23 AM   #541
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Y'all know what the best part of curves' post is?

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Hopefully lessons are learned by this that can be applied to water mains and other mission critical projects. Years ago when I was in California as a child, I bought a souvenir from the 1994 Earthquake that destroyed the busiest freeway in America I believe (I 10) The city, state and contractors moved heaven and earth and cut an insane amount of red tape to deliver this project in beyond record time.
I-10 was fixed in three months, but it took about five years to fix the Los Angeles water system after the Northridge earthquake.
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Two days ago: "good job everyone! Mission 'reduce consumption' accomplished. give yourselves a pat on the back!"
Today: "THE TAPS ARE RUNNING DRY! The sky is falling! Flee for your lives!"

... Maybe that congratulatory message wasn't the best idea? Maybe "hey, we appreciate the sacrifices that are being made and we'll get through this over the next couple of weeks but until we can see light at the end of the tunnel, we have to keep making these sacrifices" was the better way to go?
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Effective communication is not these folk's strength, unfortunately.
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Great Livewire article that has an interactive map showing water complaints by community:

https://livewirecalgary.com/2024/06/...-conservation/

So is the map showing the communities with the most people who don't follow the rules, or the communities with the most rats?
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Effective communication is not these folk's strength, unfortunately.
Yeah. It's a real contrast to Nenshi/the flood, imo.
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:53 AM   #546
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Y'all know what the best part of curves' post is?



I-10 was fixed in three months, but it took about five years to fix the Los Angeles water system after the Northridge earthquake.
Curves is hilarious. This was my favorite post of his.

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I don't know if this has been brought up at all but given this crisis, does the city water works department have enough man power working to fix this issue? Could a few people from outside of Calgary with knowledge of this specific infrastructure be helpful?
Just over 24 hrs after the break started and already wondering if the city is capable... If a city, especially one of Calgary's size, is unable to handle the very thing they are in charge of and dealing with day in and day out, with a plethora of local contractors available.... then we would be in real dire straights right now. lol at thinking external help would be needed to make a repair for this.
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Are their any Europeans that could help out?
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Can we somehow convert oil sands to pure water?

Someone call Smith, we can get this done.
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Old 06-14-2024, 12:08 PM   #550
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Still keeping that demand below typical, good job team.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1800567562784399838
Yeah I don't ####ing understand this anymore. On today's stream she said we're at 480million. So still well below typical demand.

But now there's a new threshold we should be under? Why not state that threshold from the beginning?

You ####s need to get your #### together.
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Old 06-14-2024, 12:14 PM   #551
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So is the map showing the communities with the most people who don't follow the rules, or the communities with the most rats?
Snitches! Too many neighbors sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
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Old 06-14-2024, 12:19 PM   #552
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Yeah. Confusing. What exactly is the target?

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In her morning briefing Friday, she said there was only one message for Calgarians: “We must do better.”

The mayor also said that should Calgarians not get on board, they may have to implement indoor watering restrictions in order to preserve the water supply for critical functions.

Calgarians are still using water at the sustainable threshold or beyond, she said in the morning briefing. She said 480 million litres were used Thursday, which is the threshold that allows them to replenish community reservoirs.

“While we reduced our water use slightly from the day before, we simply have to do more,” she said.

“We do not have access to the majority of our water supply until this feeder main can be restored to its full function. I am worried about our city and our surrounding municipalities. If our water usage continues to trend up, and our water supply can’t keep up, the taps will run dry at some point.”
'We simply must do better', but at the same time we're using water at the 'sustainable threshold or beyond'

Seems the concern is that if the increase continues to trend we're in trouble and we're essentially right at the line and trending the wrong way, but maybe just say we need to double down and bend the curve () then?
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So is the map showing the communities with the most people who don't follow the rules, or the communities with the most rats?
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Old 06-14-2024, 12:27 PM   #554
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Here’s one for the class; so a person in my community apparently had literally just installed a brand new lawn the day before the water main break. So in order to save the lawn and not have to pay for another they kinda had to water it (I assume this is true? Is this true?).

They received QUITE the blowback obviously including visits from police etc, is it reasonable though for these people in this specific circumstance to water a lawn? There’s been a hell of a debate amongst people I know on this one and I find the discussions interesting / amusing.
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Maybe just having a water quota would be better. Do what you want. Use your share for drinking/showering/lawn watering/whatever.
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Here’s one for the class; so a person in my community apparently had literally just installed a brand new lawn the day before the water main break. So in order to save the lawn and not have to pay for another they kinda had to water it (I assume this is true? Is this true?).

They received QUITE the blowback obviously including visits from police etc, is it reasonable though for these people in this specific circumstance to water a lawn? There’s been a hell of a debate amongst people I know on this one and I find the discussions interesting / amusing.
Is it allowed? No. Does it suck / bad timing? Sure.
Could they have been resourceful and figured out other ways to keep the lawn alive? Probably. Grey water? Landscaping company with water from another source? (Many have water from out of town/pond stormwater/etc) Rain barrels?

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Are their any Europeans that could help out?
I thought Mario and Luigi were on it and would have it done within an hour?
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Only if they're from the UK or Germany as they are the only European countries with Safeway stores.
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Here’s one for the class; so a person in my community apparently had literally just installed a brand new lawn the day before the water main break. So in order to save the lawn and not have to pay for another they kinda had to water it (I assume this is true? Is this true?).

They received QUITE the blowback obviously including visits from police etc, is it reasonable though for these people in this specific circumstance to water a lawn? There’s been a hell of a debate amongst people I know on this one and I find the discussions interesting / amusing.
At that point you need to have the landscaping company there to tell the police, "hey, we're experts, we installed, this, and it absolutely must be watered". Then work on getting some alternative source of water, although I have no idea what that even looks like.
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Here’s one for the class; so a person in my community apparently had literally just installed a brand new lawn the day before the water main break. So in order to save the lawn and not have to pay for another they kinda had to water it (I assume this is true? Is this true?).

They received QUITE the blowback obviously including visits from police etc, is it reasonable though for these people in this specific circumstance to water a lawn? There’s been a hell of a debate amongst people I know on this one and I find the discussions interesting / amusing.
New Sod will dry up and die really quickly if not watered.


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