06-10-2024, 04:45 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
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31 more versions of CapFriendly to be sold. Roll up your sleeves and get coding, photon.
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06-10-2024, 05:11 PM
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#62
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All I can get
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CalgaryPuckPedia
We'll just have Bingo buy PuckPedia for us.
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 06-10-2024 at 06:24 PM.
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06-10-2024, 05:54 PM
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#63
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by FiveSeven
Not going to go into details in case of repercussions but I already have all of the current data on the entire site. Within two weeks me and my friend should have a near replica complete. Not exactly sure how they're getting their data, through some sort of NHL API, manual analysis, or whatnot. I was thinking of just using AI through X API to track an aggregate of trusted X sources to fill out the small number of required datasets like players, numbers, teams, trade conditions, etc, and doing a simple manual click approval so that one man can easily keep up. Not exactly sure but we will figure out the best way and will likely be quicker than the current method they use...which is probably manual input as they don't seem to be very fast. This was absolutely needless and pissed me off so we're going to go Robinhood on their ass. Good on the sellers, but F the caps. This is public information with no upside in the sense of having an advantage over another team.  - If the site ends up not being used and failing because of people already seeking an alternative then so be it, a few weeks of lost effort is of no worry when the potential upside is pissing off a bunch of elite asshat gatekeepers.
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https://developer.sportradar.com/ice...e/nhl-overview
There's a publicly accessible NHL api. I've played around with it in Postman, with designs to build a web app myself (adv stats, but a friendlier interface that doesn't look like it was built by data nerds).
(plot twist, I'm a bit of a quasi data nerd)
Edit: It just occured to me that the api I posted probably doesn't have salary endpoints...
Last edited by FanIn80; 06-10-2024 at 06:16 PM.
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06-10-2024, 11:54 PM
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#64
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Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
Considering how innovative and cutting-edge the NHL often seems to be, I wouldn't be surprised if all the cap stuff was tracked and determined using an abacus by a single pince nez-bedecked man in a dusty little office.
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With a quill pen, of course.
This is why the trade deadline can be so glitchy. The fax ‘machine’, whose name is George Popplewick (hired straight out of a Dickens novel), keeps running out of either parchment or blotting paper.
Just look at how the NHL presents the draft lottery every year. They think envelopes are impressive technology, and lotto balls are so advanced they have to be kept top secret.
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06-11-2024, 06:45 AM
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#65
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
With a quill pen, of course.
This is why the trade deadline can be so glitchy. The fax ‘machine’, whose name is George Popplewick (hired straight out of a Dickens novel), keeps running out of either parchment or blotting paper.
Just look at how the NHL presents the draft lottery every year. They think envelopes are impressive technology, and lotto balls are so advanced they have to be kept top secret.
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To be fair, the NHL uses analog technology for the draft lottery because of conspiracy theorists. If they used some kind of digital tool, even more swivel-eyed loons would think the whole thing is rigged.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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06-11-2024, 08:45 AM
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#66
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
To be fair, the NHL uses analog technology for the draft lottery because of conspiracy theorists. If they used some kind of digital tool, even more swivel-eyed loons would think the whole thing is rigged.
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How do you know there isn't a magnet in each ball that gets triggered by an RFID chip by a remote device in the hands of Gary Bettman or Bill Daly, or better yet, one of their stooges who is hiding on a grassy knoll?
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06-11-2024, 10:32 AM
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#67
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Reading this morning that a lot of teams relied on this website, and are scrambling on what to do.
The NHL truly is a archaic league.
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06-11-2024, 10:42 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Teams only have themselves to blame. It wasn't even long ago that Capgeek was sold and the exact same thing happened.
Billion dollar organizations trying to save $100K in data/analytics.
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06-11-2024, 11:11 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Reading this morning that a lot of teams relied on this website, and are scrambling on what to do.
The NHL truly is a archaic league.
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Just before getting fired, Chuck Fletcher was at presser talking about how amazing his analytics department was. They developed him "an app" that helps him determine values in a trade.
NHL should centralize contracts, make a version available to public and one available to teams. Done. Guys like Lou not disclosing contract terms is getting silly.
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06-11-2024, 11:33 AM
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#71
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Who wants to bet that Calgary are on that list.
Why pay for something that is "free" right.
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06-11-2024, 11:51 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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July 1 is hilarious timing. No one is going to know how much other teams have in space.
Don Maloney just hitting "print screen" on every player right now.
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06-11-2024, 12:01 PM
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#75
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
What did teams do before CapFriendly and other similar sites existed?
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they ####ed up
(remember the Flames icing 16 players one night?)
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06-11-2024, 12:06 PM
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#76
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Pretty hilarious actually. A pro sports league in panic because a free website is shutting down.
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06-11-2024, 12:06 PM
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#77
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
What did teams do before CapFriendly and other similar sites existed?
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CapGeek was around.
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06-11-2024, 12:08 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CedarMeter
CapGeek was around.
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Before that?
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06-11-2024, 12:08 PM
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#79
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
What did teams do before CapFriendly and other similar sites existed?
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Probably what Jim Benning was doing even after those sites existed; tracking stuff manually on a giant whiteboard like a caveman. The funny thing is he was actually proud enough to boast about it:
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But Benning’s masterpiece is a positional depth chart that includes every team in the National Hockey League, penned by Benning on feltboard and arranged by team rank. It contains the colour-coded names of more than 700 NHL players and occupies most of the south wall of Benning’s office at Rogers Arena.
It’s like what Michelangelo might have created for the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel were he a hockey nerd and not a Renaissance genius.
“This is my work space,” Benning explained. “I need to know every player in the league. This is just an example, but if I’m talking to Anaheim and (GM) Bob Murray and I say I want Jakob Silverberg or Kyle Palmieri included in the Kesler trade, and Bob says, ‘I can’t do that or I’ll have no right-wingers,’ I can say: ‘Actually, you still have Corey Perry, Palmieri, (Devante) Smith-Pelley and (Tim) Jackman.’ ”
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https://vancouversun.com/sports/canu...ttered-picture
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06-11-2024, 12:14 PM
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#80
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Wow!
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