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Old 06-07-2024, 07:26 PM   #261
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Restaurants use an insane amount of water due to the amount of ice/drinking water/waste and sanitization that needs. Things like having glasses and silverware sparking clean from a pure aesthetic perspective will lead to 2 wash cycles per load in a lot of place.

You can tell the owner/operators of establishments that are cognizant of costs for water/sanitization/labour with how they handle glassware in their business. A new glass for a pint of beer is normal or a different type of wine. Bringing a new glass of water or pop every single refill has always been a waste of water/ice/straws, detergent and labour. There are exceptions to this of course.

I don't know if this has been brought up at all but given this crisis, does the city water works department have enough man power working to fix this issue? Could a few people from outside of Calgary with knowledge of this specific infrastructure be helpful?
During these times I'd accept paper plates, plastic utensils and paper napkins.
It's not forever....paper cups, plastic whino glasses.

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The water would come from the water treatment plant. My understanding is this is an outflow pipe from the water treatment plan to the city of clean water. So the challange is to get water from the water treatment facility to the storage locations so it can bypass the broken section. If this is wrong then trucking wouldn’t fix it.

As for the trucks the question isn’t are there 100 trucks standing idle. The question is are there 100 trucks that are doing less important things that could be paid to suspend what they are doing.

Trucking is expensive though like $10 a cube so about $1 million per day and let’s say you need to pay double to get them to stop the regular activity.

You also don’t need to do the full amount. If you truck half the amount you double your reserve life. I’ve done this at 1/20th the scale for a different commodity. If you put the required resources to it could be done.
There are domestic water trucks sitting around doing nothing, because they can’t fill up and haul from the city supply. I suspect anyways.
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Or just set up some temp lines. 100K cubes is less than a montney/Duvernay pad. Easy peasy.
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Old 06-07-2024, 08:55 PM   #264
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Love how both my neighbours just head to their places in the interior instead of ration water, but one didn't turn off their sprinkler system
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Old 06-07-2024, 09:20 PM   #265
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Love how both my neighbours just head to their places in the interior instead of ration water, but one didn't turn off their sprinkler system
That's one time I wouldn't feel bad about reporting a neighbour.
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Old 06-07-2024, 09:33 PM   #266
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Good to know that 60% of the water comes from the Feeder brake impacted. Seems like to me the city needs to Split that feeder so no line ever hold more than 25%.........
Or just not let the pipes blow up. That seems a lot cheaper.
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Fighting mountain forest fires they often run hoses multiple kms. Apparently residential firehoses are about 570 litres per minute and commercial firehoses are closer to 1000.

I'd imagine smaller diameter is more likely for running super length. Let's say 500 litres per minute, therefore 30,000 litres per hour, or 720,000 litres per day. So each hose line wouldn't even scratch 1% of the 100 million litres. But if you could find hose for a dozen lines it would be at least some help.
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What if they set water curfew hours? Or shutdown all offices and set mandatory wfh to reduce usage to at-home only?

Shut down restaurants, shutter golf courses (rip up the greens just to be sure), have police door to door checks to ensure no outdoor water usage.
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What if they set water curfew hours? Or shutdown all offices and set mandatory wfh to reduce usage to at-home only?

Shut down restaurants, shutter golf courses (rip up the greens just to be sure), have police door to door checks to ensure no outdoor water usage.
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They should just jack the price of water in these events.
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Or just not let the pipes blow up. That seems a lot cheaper.
It sounds like this was inspected in the spring so will be interesting to here what failed.
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They should just jack the price of water in these events.
Yeah. If they announced they were tripling the price of water conservation efforts would go up.

Then use the money to cover some of the trucking ggg recommended and the problem is solved until they get the line fixed.
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What if they set water curfew hours? Or shutdown all offices and set mandatory wfh to reduce usage to at-home only?

Shut down restaurants, shutter golf courses (rip up the greens just to be sure), have police door to door checks to ensure no outdoor water usage.
Toilets must be full and baths dry as a bone.

Plants should be dead or dying, otherwise that's a paddlin' and a fine!
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Old 06-08-2024, 08:17 AM   #274
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Maybe the City should go back to focusing on essential services rather than all the other things they do. Just do the essential stuff really well...like making sure you don't lose water to 1.5M people...

This is an insanely big screw-up.

And of course, yes conserve as much water as possible to avoid making things worse. I stink, haven't taken a shower in 3 days haha.

Our family has basically stopped using all our water except for the bare minimum and drinking.

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The city has done a piss-poor job of explaining why water levels are at a critical level, which leads to people not taking it seriously.

If a feeder main is down, that is unrelated to the actual supply, that is just transmission across the city and has a more limited impact (vs. city wide). But if they came out and said "hey this feeder main provides all the supply from the Bearspaw treatment plant to the system, so we're down an entire plant", then people might appreciate what we're up against a bit more.

Right now people see the spring water levels in the reservoir and rivers and think the city is lying
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Maybe the City should go back to focusing on essential services rather than all the other things they do. Just do the essential stuff really well...like making sure you don't lose water to 1.5M people...

This is an insanely big screw-up.

And of course, yes conserve as much water as possible to avoid making things worse. I stink, haven't taken a shower in 3 days haha.

Our family has basically stopped using all our water except for the bare minimum and drinking.
Really you haven't showered in 3 days? That's ridiculous imo. You can still shower just keep it short.
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Driving into work this morning (shocking, I know) I was puzzled why one of the info signs on Deerfoot was displaying the fire ban, and not the water situation.

Bizarre messaging indeed...
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Surely a city this size with this many experts aren't just going to sit around and let running water run out?

I'm just sitting back and letting the smarter people take charge, but yeah I agree that if we are truly "critical and running out" then ####ing do something serious.
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Driving into work this morning (shocking, I know) I was puzzled why one of the info signs on Deerfoot was displaying the fire ban, and not the water situation.

Bizarre messaging indeed...
Driving? On a Saturday?? For shame sir! For shame!
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Driving into work this morning (shocking, I know) I was puzzled why one of the info signs on Deerfoot was displaying the fire ban, and not the water situation.

Bizarre messaging indeed...
Haha, I noticed that on the one downtown yesterday, too.



I don't think their is a level of messaging the city could provide that would still not lead to a bunch of people complaining, calling the city liars, and generally being ####ing pathetic citizens. People are just too dumb these days.
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