I thought it was weird that Mae was pretty passive and exhorting the Jedi's to attack her with all of their strengths.
That doesn't seem very Sith like, as it doesn't use those according to Palpatine aggressive feelings.
I also think that her partner is the Sith Lord
My theory is
Spoiler!
Carrie Ann Moss is the Sith. When she says something to Mae along the lines of, "It's you!" when her mask is pulled down during their fight at the tavern - that was the clue for me.
Moss is a huge name and she was in all the marketing and teasers. I'd be shocked if she were relegated to flashbacks.
"I'm mad cause you killed my family and left me to die!"
"No, you started the fire. We tried to save all of you but could only save your sister..."
"No you lie, my sister is dead and now I have to kill all four of you!"
"No your sister is right here. We're actually pretty good people. That dude that's training you is a Sith. You've been manipulated."
"I'm really mad though!"
"Yes, I can see that... but you don't have to be. I've literally just explained the whole thing, and I've reunited you with the sister you thought was dead. She literally just told you that she thought you were dead. My boss wanted to put her on trial for the murders you committed because no one knew you were alive. I believed her when she said she didn't do it, and my boss trusted my instinct allowed the two of us to try to find out the truth. That's like the literal opposite of what bad people do."
"I don't care! RAAAAAWWWR!!"
It's kind of insulting, really. Like we can't we have a story that makes sense?
I like the Padawan girl though. She seems pretty smart - not like to a fault, where all she cares about is logic and blind to everything else. I don't know anything about her race or who she even is, but I'm more interested in her character so far than any of the main ones.
I mean I guess I'm kind of interested in Osha too, but I'm kind of leery of the whole "happy-go-lucky space pirate mechanic with force powers" thing. Like they're trying to blur things a bit between a Han type and a Luke type. I'm curious to see how it plays out.
You can really see it on social media. Its actually kind of sad, not that there weren't flaws in the story, but somehow Star Wars, which is pace fantasy has become a political statement for some and in the wrong way.
I remember in school, we were reading some Shakespeare play I forget which one, and this was in Grade 12, and I was to be honest really badly hung over. And the teacher tried to break down the book into social commentary based around human society. It was complete nonesense to me, and just a huge reach, and I remember I said something under my breath like "For f$$$$$k sakes, sometimes a book doesn't have deeper meaning, its entertainment, can we move on". And honestly it was probably because I felt at that particular moment like my late night destruction of a case of beer was about to come up in my lap. But if people are looking for deeper meanings in Star Wars around modern day societal statements, they're working too damn hard.
Its star wars, laser swords and impractical space ####s and an 8 foot tall dude in an ape suit.
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George in a lot of ways was playing action figures in an imaginative fleshed out universe that was a mix of westerns, wartime dramas and flash gordon influences.
Disney's SW has turned it into something else entirely that just doesn't capture the same spirit or imagination.
We can play along and give it credit as watchable entertainment (which it for the most part is). But does any one really feel like this is still the star wars we grew up with?
George in a lot of ways was playing action figures in an imaginative fleshed out universe that was a mix of westerns, wartime dramas and flash gordon influences.
Disney's SW has turned it into something else entirely that just doesn't capture the same spirit or imagination.
We can play along and give it credit as watchable entertainment (which it for the most part is). But does any one really feel like this is still the star wars we grew up with?
I think that ship sailed a decade ago.
I agree, it doesn't quite feel like the original trilogy that most of us grew up on, but I still think they've done some interesting things over the last couple of years. Andor was fantastic and arguably the best thing that Disney has done with the franchise lately. The first 2 seasons of the Mandalorian were also pretty damn great, and managed to capture a bit of that feeling and tone of the OG trilogy.
What I like so far about the Acolyte is that it's a new story that doesn't have anything to do with the Skywalkers. At least they're trying something a little different, which is a welcome change from the fan service garbage they tried with Ahsoka and parts of Obi-Wan.
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George in a lot of ways was playing action figures in an imaginative fleshed out universe that was a mix of westerns, wartime dramas and flash gordon influences.
Disney's SW has turned it into something else entirely that just doesn't capture the same spirit or imagination.
We can play along and give it credit as watchable entertainment (which it for the most part is). But does any one really feel like this is still the star wars we grew up with?
I think that ship sailed a decade ago.
For as much as people complained about George, and things like dialogue are not his thing. but he builds worlds, he has an amazing eye for detail, and he's always trying to stretch things.
You can go back to Star Wars and you see stuff happening in the background. or you look at the details in the modelling and sets, and wardrobe, and he's amazing. He also does have the ability to put together a comprehensive story.
But the new Star Wars really does miss a lot of those key elements, and they don't stretch things, they rely on what George has built before. So we get things like alternative desert planets like Jakku, or we get Star Destroyers like the ones in the Rise of Skywalker that were the same damn Star Destroyers but stretched out to be bigger.
I mean you look at the details of where George goes, the creation of the rule of two and a minor mention of Darth Bane in a novelization, and suddenly Darth Bane becomes his own lore and fascination.
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I agree, it doesn't quite feel like the original trilogy that most of us grew up on, but I still think they've done some interesting things over the last couple of years. Andor was fantastic and arguably the best thing that Disney has done with the franchise lately. The first 2 seasons of the Mandalorian were also pretty damn great, and managed to capture a bit of that feeling and tone of the OG trilogy.
What I like so far about the Acolyte is that it's a new story that doesn't have anything to do with the Skywalkers. At least they're trying something a little different, which is a welcome change from the fan service garbage they tried with Ahsoka and parts of Obi-Wan.
Yeah.
Rogue and Mandalorian bottled a few moments of the OT aesthetic and spirit. It's too bad that they quickly went back on the Grogu separation which kind of demeaned how significant that moment was.
Andor and its glimpse into the empire felt like it could be an expansion of the OT universe. It was believable in that way. It was also more brutal and the beginnings of the rebellion actually felt oppressed and vulnerable (as well as dysfunctional). That all came across believable and I bought into it as a part of that universe.
They've dropped the ball on anything involving Jedi/Sith though. They're struggling to capture George's vision and are making them less interesting the more their presence is in the the shows and movies, instead of more.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but the Jedi and Sith in Episodes 1-6 had a distinct presence that is absent in anything Disney has put out.
Trinitiy's five minutes on screen were surprisingly good, as was Baylan Skoll. It's a shame both characters presences will be cut short.
Just watched episode one. I actually enjoyed it. Went in with low expectations, thinking the quality would be similar to Ashoka. It's much better than that though.
I do agree it often feels not like Star Wars though. That first scene with Carrie-Anne Moss felt like the Matrix. Not just because of Moss, but because there was such a heavy emphasis on the martial arts. That initial fight was way more like something out of the Matrix than Star Wars.
Yord feels almost cartoon like. There are other parts that kind of remind me of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Apart from Yord, none of the characters really get on my nerves. Mae is likeable. I'll keep watching. It's a big step up from Ashoka.
For as much as people complained about George, and things like dialogue are not his thing. but he builds worlds, he has an amazing eye for detail, and he's always trying to stretch things.
You can go back to Star Wars and you see stuff happening in the background. or you look at the details in the modelling and sets, and wardrobe, and he's amazing. He also does have the ability to put together a comprehensive story.
But the new Star Wars really does miss a lot of those key elements, and they don't stretch things, they rely on what George has built before. So we get things like alternative desert planets like Jakku, or we get Star Destroyers like the ones in the Rise of Skywalker that were the same damn Star Destroyers but stretched out to be bigger.
I mean you look at the details of where George goes, the creation of the rule of two and a minor mention of Darth Bane in a novelization, and suddenly Darth Bane becomes his own lore and fascination.
This is very accurate.
With Lucas' fare, there was intention behind every environment, species, droid, creature, and everything happening within the frame. (Even though he got carried away with that at times)
With Disney, it's like "well what would George do?" and vague interpretations of that, and a lot of small, empty and non-descript spaces as backdrops, droid that look like a slight variations of what we've seen before (except for k-2SO and bb-8, but bb-8 was disney-fied crap) and aliens that look borrowed from other franchises, instead of some new mind#### that Lucas would give us in every new title.
It's all recycled but worse versions of what came before. I don't think they've realized that by having rights to the franchise, they're allowed to expand and be as creative as they want to. Instead, most of the content just plays it safe and doesn't stretch the world outwards, as you put it.
It's just trying to make new tunnels in the same, rotting apple.
You get a sense of Lucas' work from the initial scene in ANH. The Cantina scene is a perfect example. Each alien looks specifically chosen, and all the "background" characters appear to be interacting with each other to create the mood and feel of a seedy intergalactic bar.
Contrast that with say this scene:
Too much going on. In every direction you look there's Star Warsy aliens all engaged in something exciting all going on at once. That's not how bars actually are.
Just watched episode one. I actually enjoyed it. Went in with low expectations, thinking the quality would be similar to Ashoka. It's much better than that though.
I do agree it often feels not like Star Wars though. That first scene with Carrie-Anne Moss felt like the Matrix. Not just because of Moss, but because there was such a heavy emphasis on the martial arts. That initial fight was way more like something out of the Matrix than Star Wars.
Yord feels almost cartoon like. There are other parts that kind of remind me of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Apart from Yord, none of the characters really get on my nerves. Mae is likeable. I'll keep watching. It's a big step up from Ashoka.
Agreed on borrowing from other franchises for "new" ideas and turning the Jedi into some kind of martial arts order and the concept of the force and balance into this pale imitation of buddhist doctrines, instead of its own thing...which it always was. The force is the force. And talking about it must always be paired with the binary sunset theme!
All that said, this show is an improvement on recent ones. At least so far. It's not breaking any ceilings as of yet, but I don't think any one expected it to.
Supposely the third episode is going to be a real doozy.
Not that I'm going to watch it. Stopped watching NuStar Wars after episode 9. And pretty much all mass media.
Supposely the third episode is going to be a real doozy.
Not that I'm going to watch it. Stopped watching NuStar Wars after episode 9. And pretty much all mass media.
Cool.
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