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Old 06-06-2024, 11:45 AM   #4661
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Same here.

I think he can help us get a top 5 pick next season.
Lol. Vladar might also be helping Calgary get a better return from New Jersey for Markstrom.

"Well you could get Ullmark out of Boston. He's a little younger, and... you know... he seems pretty good on that team... I mean like Vladar. He seemed really good to us a couple of years ago when he was playing for Boston too."
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Old 06-06-2024, 11:45 AM   #4662
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Only 3 out of 4 of those names know anything about winning hockey games though. Hopefully they win the day.
Was Tyler Dellow actually that Dgibbs guy? lol
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:01 PM   #4663
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Was Tyler Dellow actually that Dgibbs guy? lol
Don't summon him.
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:07 PM   #4664
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New Jersey is an interesting mix in their front office.

You have Brodeur who listed Markstrom in his top 4 goalies in the league.

You now have Keefe that has lived with a goaltending carousel in Toronto and likely wants to be more solidified than Jake Allen.

You have Fitzgerald that seems to want to improve goaltending.

And then you have Tyler Dellow who probably wants no part of moving any assets for a goalie.

Will be interesting to see where it all lands.
And you have Fitzgerald that for some reason took another team wanting more than he was willing to pay as a personal insult and threw around the word extortion.

He may refuse to give in to Conroy's demands and be stubborn about it.
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And you have Fitzgerald that for some reason took another team wanting more than he was willing to pay as a personal insult and threw around the word extortion.

He may refuse to give in to Conroy's demands and be stubborn about it.
He also refused to pay the asking price for Saros, and he clearly wasn't offering enough to pry Ullmark loose. The ‘extortion’ comment was directed at every GM on the market with a good goalie to sell.

If he refuses to give in to anyone's demands, he'll end up with garbage in net and Markstrom will go somewhere else.
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I don't know how Conroy can do it but we need to pick 9th, 10th AND 11th this year. Just get it done!
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:19 PM   #4667
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Palat has a NMC. Hard to imagine him waiving for a rebuilding, small-market Canadian team.

That’s the difficulty with a team like the Flames weaponizing cap space - most overpaid vets in the league today have trade protection.
Conroy could get creative, but it would mean more retention. Palat is a valuable player at $3m a year, so they could potentially three way a deal and retain on Palat instead of Markstrom if they get a better return involving a third team. And Palat may waive to go to a third team who has a chance at a cup.
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:19 PM   #4668
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NJ could probably go either way on needing/wanting the pick. But Buffalo absolutely does not need that pick, and would be much better off upgrading their team before they eventually end up in a cap crunch.
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:23 PM   #4669
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I don't know how Conroy can do it but we need to pick 9th, 10th AND 11th this year. Just get it done!
It's got be around Anderson, but would they want or need him?

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Old 06-06-2024, 12:24 PM   #4670
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Would be crazy to see the Flames just set up camp on the stage at the Sphere for 9 through 11
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How about Markstrom? Luukkonen was decent last season but he and Levi are still not a proven tandem that guarantees you the playoffs. They could trade for Markstrom and turn around and move Luukkonen to a team looking for a young goaltender.
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Markstrom holds the cards and I seriously can't see him going to Buffalo.
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:35 PM   #4673
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But, we want the playoffs..... NOW!!!

Realistically, playoffs should not even be in the discussion for the next few years. We shouldn't be making any short term decisions at all.

Kuzmenko... gone next deadline.
Bread... gone next deadline.
Necas... hang up the phone.
Coleman wants to go to a contender? Find him a team.

We aren't going to be a contender for years.
Unless something changes with the roster, a star player emerges suddenly, or Huberdeau can suddenly carry the team, it won't matter what is the GM's or the owner's goal.

The roster is not good enough to compete as constructed. They are selecting 9th overall with Markstrom and Lindholm for most of the year. They are going - most likely - to trade their starting goaltender this summer and I doubt that any unsigned free agents at the trade deadline are retained.

This roster presently is not good enough to even get out of the bottom third of the league - again unless something changes.

So, the rebuild is here. The question is really whether the Flames will embrace it. I don't need a press release or acknowledgment - just stop bleeding draft picks, focus on youth and talent, and make reasonable bets to extract value in trades.
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I don't know how Conroy can do it but we need to pick 9th, 10th AND 11th this year. Just get it done!
All i can think when i see this is how Boston managed to screw this very same thing up and leave Connor, Barzal, and Boeser on the table
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All i can think when i see this is how Boston managed to screw this very same thing up and leave Connor, Barzal, and Boeser on the table
It is pretty crazy to go 0/3 (although they made some
Weird picks )

Can you imagine if they hit on those picks ….
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:41 PM   #4676
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I don't know how Conroy can do it but we need to pick 9th, 10th AND 11th this year. Just get it done!
That would be a fun draft day that's for sure.
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Old 06-06-2024, 12:43 PM   #4677
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It's got be around Anderson, but would they want or need him?

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Their blueline is very weak on the right side.

Dahlin, Power, and Byram are all lefties. Even with Dahlin probably playing on the right, they still need someone on the right on the second pair.

I think it's a bigger question whether the Flames would trade Andersson, even for the 11th overall pick, than whether Buffalo would be interested. They would be.
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Markstrom+28+26 3rd for 10+Schmid+Clarke?
What do you like about Clarke? Could you see him playing 4th line RW?
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How about Markstrom? Luukkonen was decent last season but he and Levi are still not a proven tandem that guarantees you the playoffs. They could trade for Markstrom and turn around and move Luukkonen to a team looking for a young goaltender.
6K (Luukkonen) is also a RFA. Markstrom retained could be enticing.
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Markstrom holds the cards and I seriously can't see him going to Buffalo.
Why not, that team is loaded and ready to pop.
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