Stanley Cup: Florida Panthers [ATL1] vs Edmonton Oilers [PAC2] - Florida wins 4-3

[Buff]

Originally Posted by chummer

I thought it was a pretty good response.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1798070242347999415

For a team that likes to hang onto the past (5 CUPS!!!!!) that sure was tone def. One of the big things Gretzky talks about was learning how to lose that 1st time against NYI and seeing how the Islanders were tending to injuries just as much as celebrating. That moment clicked with his team that they didn't pay the price and they may not have learned it if they didn't lose in the final in 83.

The Panthers are a bit different this year. Tkachuk, a key leader on the team, is more composed. They hopefully have learned just like Gretzky did back in 1983.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Trying to manufacture interest in what will be a low rating series.

Hopefully a quick win for the Panthers.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

If we had to sewer the franchise by taking on Huby and trading Tkachuk and Bennett so the oilers wouldn't win a cup... honestly I could get on board with that.

I see this less as the darkest timeline and more like "trust in god, everything happens for a reason"

And Lomberg. I love that smiling little troll of a human. I think he is going to crawl under Kane's (and others) skin all series and force him to take selfish penalties.

[Wastedyouth]

You guys are just disappointing yourselves thinking this is:

A. A foregone conclusion the Panthers will win.
B. The Oilers are not good.
C. This isn't going to 7.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Buff

For a team that likes to hang onto the past (5 CUPS!!!!!) that sure was tone def. One of the big things Gretzky talks about was learning how to lose that 1st time against NYI and seeing how the Islanders were tending to injuries just as much as celebrating. That moment clicked with his team that they didn't pay the price and they may not have learned it if they didn't lose in the final in 83.

The Panthers are a bit different this year. Tkachuk, a key leader on the team, is more composed. They hopefully have learned just like Gretzky did back in 1983.

Florida got carried by Bob a lot last year in the playoffs. They also scored a bunch, and likely thought it would be easy against Vegas who handled them in 5 games.

Vegas was big and finished their checks.

You see it with Florida this year. They are tougher, they play a more disciplined style and don't allow much. They finish checks, block shots, and they force teams back with a relentless forecheck.

Point totals for individuals are down, but wins are up. I think they have fully bought in, and know what is required to win.

Let's hope Bettman and the gambling refs don't ruin this.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

You guys are just disappointing yourselves thinking this is:

A. A foregone conclusion the Panthers will win.
B. The Oilers are not good.
C. This isn't going to 7.

I fully expect the grease to win. Might not even be a long series. McDavid is unstoppable right now.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Florida got carried by Bob a lot last year in the playoffs. They also scored a bunch, and likely thought it would be easy against Vegas who handled them in 5 games.

Vegas was big and finished their checks.

You see it with Florida this year. They are tougher, they play a more disciplined style and don't allow much. They finish checks, block shots, and they force teams back with a relentless forecheck.

Point totals for individuals are down, but wins are up. I think they have fully bought in, and know what is required to win.

Let's hope Bettman and the gambling refs don't ruin this.

I agree, Tkachuk started running around trying to start trouble last year whenever they were losing. Especially against Las Vegas. I don’t think we will that in this series.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

You guys are just disappointing yourselves thinking this is:

A. A foregone conclusion the Panthers will win.
B. The Oilers are not good.
C. This isn't going to 7.

A. I don't think anyone thinks its a foregone conclusion Florida wins. They have a big task ahead of them. They are playing the Oilers, the media, and refs who wager on games.

B. The Oilers are not good. Look at the bracket they came from.

C. Anything can happen especially now that betting so prevalent, close games and OT.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If special teams continue to be historically good for the Oilers they'll be a tough out and have a real shot.

If the oilers special teams come back to earth at all they may wind up being the easiest opponent the cats will have faced these playoffs since their 5 on 5 game is leagues better than what we've seen out of the west and their special teams are at least adequate.

[3rd liner]

Have been purposely avoiding canadian sports media this week because I’m pretty sure sportsnet will just feature 24h of Ron Maclean and gadzic staring deeply into each other’s eyes and whispering ‘Mcdavid’ to each other.
Ended up at a pub last night for a beer and, sure enough, SN was replaying the oilers game 6 win. Then, it was feature after feature on ‘tkachuk vs Edmonton’. I figure that’s their whole broadcast schedule this week.
Excellent. Seeing as tkachuk lives rent-free in the heads of the no-goods fans, players and media, let them all focus on tkachuk, tkachuk, tkachuk. Let scumbag Kane go after him and take stupid penalties. Then barkov, verhaeghe and Reinhardt can make them pay.

[cannon7]

Panthers in 4.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I disagree with their notion that Tkachuk never lived up to being a franchise player here. We never gave him the keys. We never allowed him to become a franchise player. We told him to change his game and tone down his personality, while refusing to let him take over.

Florida welcomed him and all that he is. They opened the door and Barkov himself gave him a copy of his own keys to the kingdom. They allowed the team to be remolded around Tkachuk's style of play. The back to back Finals Panthers are not Huberdeau's perimeter Panthers... they're Tkachuk's in-your-face, drive the net and fight you at center ice Panthers.

Barky and co. welcomed him in and welcomed the change he brought. In turn, he adapted his game and matured with the newly acquired responsibility that being a real leader brings.

You listen to Barkov talk about Tkachuk, and he says things like "Chucky's a real leader on this team. In the room and on the ice, his impact has been huge for us."

Listen to Tkachuk talk about why they've been successful, and he says "100% buy-in from everyone on this team. The way we play is very hard to play, but we like to think it's even harder to play against."

We didn't get that Tkachuk here because we didn't want that Tkachuk here, and that's why Tkachuk didn't want to be here. Florida was willing to become a villain-esque team that no one wants to play against, and they brought in a Darth Vader to make it happen.


All that aside, though, the real answer to the question in the article is 100% Florida, because "f### Edmonton" supercedes literally anything else. I don't care what the parameters are, the answer is always anyone but Edmonton.

With all due respect, this is all nonsense revisionist history with a ton of bias.

Tkachuk wasn’t handed the keys because he didn’t deserve them. He was inconsistent, immature and frequently played like an idiot.

This whole narrative blaming the older vets for trying to neuter him but them giving Florida and Barkov credit for embracing him is total nonsense. You chastise Flames players for being unhappy with his antics which frequently were to his own detriment and his teams detriment and somehow credit Florida for helping him mature.

Here’s a crazy idea, he was young and had some maturity issues which meant he was easily rattled and it frequently put him off his game. With the help of his Calgary teammates, he then learned how to reign it in by the time he went to Florida and thanks to his experience and lessons learned from fantastic leaders like Gio, was able to play a more mature well rounded game.

You’re right, Florida welcomed as he is. Because he’d already changed and matured. He’d learned his lesson that his tantrums and ill timed fights were costing his teams wins.

Barkov gave him a copy of the keys to his kingdom? What does that even mean? Tkachuk acted and played more like a leader and it shows. You trying to create a narrative by connecting dots while filling in all of the info is pure guesswork.

Tkachuk says Florida has 100% buy in but flames didn’t get that because they didn’t want it? What? The flames didn’t want buy in? You mean the same Tkachuk who you admit didn’t buy in? So he was both the problem and the solution?

I’ve been reading CP a long time and many, many people thought Tkachuk was too hot/cold and needed to mature. Many people speculated he would never reach his potential if he didn’t mature. Few wanted to sign him to a huge contract before his last season in Calgary because of the warts in his game. But no one has a crystal ball. All of this looking back and trying to rewrite history is the worst kind of hindsight.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

With all due respect, this is all nonsense revisionist history with a ton of bias.

Tkachuk wasn’t handed the keys because he didn’t deserve them. He was inconsistent, immature and frequently played like an idiot.

This whole narrative blaming the older vets for trying to neuter him but them giving Florida and Barkov credit for embracing him is total nonsense. You chastise Flames players for being unhappy with his antics which frequently were to his own detriment and his teams detriment and somehow credit Florida for helping him mature.

Here’s a crazy idea, he was young and had some maturity issues which meant he was easily rattled and it frequently put him off his game. With the help of his Calgary teammates, he then learned how to reign it in by the time he went to Florida and thanks to his experience and lessons learned from fantastic leaders like Gio, was able to play a more mature well rounded game.

You’re right, Florida welcomed as he is. Because he’d already changed and matured. He’d learned his lesson that his tantrums and ill timed fights were costing his teams wins.

Barkov gave him a copy of the keys to his kingdom? What does that even mean? Tkachuk acted and played more like a leader and it shows. You trying to create a narrative by connecting dots while filling in all of the info is pure guesswork.

Tkachuk says Florida has 100% buy in but flames didn’t get that because they didn’t want it? What? The flames didn’t want buy in? You mean the same Tkachuk who you admit didn’t buy in? So he was both the problem and the solution?

I’ve been reading CP a long time and many, many people thought Tkachuk was too hot/cold and needed to mature. Many people speculated he would never reach his potential if he didn’t mature. Few wanted to sign him to a huge contract before his last season in Calgary because of the warts in his game. But no one has a crystal ball. All of this looking back and trying to rewrite history is the worst kind of hindsight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever, Oilers fan. It is well known that Oiler fans have hated Tkachuk with a passion and y'all will never look upon him without those blue and orange colored glasses.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Buff

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever, Oilers fan. It is well known that Oiler fans have hated Tkachuk with a passion and y'all will never look upon him without those blue and orange colored glasses.

lol

[dino7c]

I love how some fans are resorting to reverse phycology like what we say and cheer for has some kinda effect on the series
there are tons of upsets in the NHL but the betting favourite almost always wins the SCF

usually there is a team that fluked out to get there and a team that owned the entire playoffs...you can decide for yourself who is who

[midniteowl]

Did I hear correctly, 3 days between games? Panthers better pack their own water if they have to spend that much time in Edmonton.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Did I hear correctly, 3 days between games? Panthers better pack their own water if they have to spend that much time in Edmonton.

3 days between changing cities.

[rohara66]

Because Fanatics:

[Paulie Walnuts]

As if we needed more reason for the Oil scum to go down, 2 of the bigges pieces of trash in Alberta getting together.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1798414639849734546

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

As if we needed more reason for the Oil scum to go down, 2 of the bigges pieces of trash in Alberta getting together.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1798414639849734546

yikes