Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[CalgarySames]

If the Flames take Iginla at 9, what number does he wear with the club?

[calf]

Originally Posted by calgarysames

if the flames take iginla at 9, what number does he wear with the club?

14

[Sainters7]

24 would be cool, his old man's OG Flames number

[getbak]

Originally Posted by calf

14

21 or 24 would be my guess.

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

24 would be cool, his old man's OG Flames number

He wore 24 at the Under 18s. That would be cool

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

How can you possibly know with certainty?

Squatting on a crystal ball over there?

This is what I don't get about your takes. The self assuredness on what 17 year olds will or won't be in the NHL.

Everything scouts have described about his game in the back half makes him sound like he's trending towards that kind of player.

You must have missed the part where I also said none of us know
Or when i said this:
“ But i'm just one opinion and talking out of my ass as much as anyone.”

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

How is that any different from Lindstrom who is anC but has more goals than assists ?

I think Lindstrom is a more unique combination of size, skating and skill.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How is me stating my opinion any different than you? You have been extremely strong in your belief on how good he will be. Does that also make you Nostradamus? We are both just sharing opinions that happen to differ.

I didn't say "he'll never be a top line driver" I said this:

"I don't think Iginla can drive first line offence. I think his upside is a complementary front line player. Not a driver."


Neither of us know.

I just stated why he could, I never predicted anything to make me a Nostradamas, just observations on the kid.

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

To answer the question, I don't see him as a play driving center because i don't see him someone that will drive an entire line, and be the one that sets up plays. I see him being the one that finishes plays. His best attribute is his shot. I don't know that he has the playmaking/hockey sense to be a centre let alone a top line centre. And I don't think he's as physical as his pop.

No offense but to be honest I question how much you've watched him play because lost in his shot and goal scoring ability is his high IQ and passing skills, as for physicality it's hard to tell with a 17 year old but he bangs down low and fights hard/wins battles for the puck, he's very strong now and likely will get a lot stronger, probably won't fight like his old man though.

I'm kind of interested on what you think of your boy Lindstrom's playmaking/hockey sense?

[Jiri Hrdina]

So back to “you don’t agree with me so you must not have watched him”
Doesn’t feel like you are actually open to different views on the matter and I don’t feel like arguing for the sake of arguing

As for my Nostradamus comment you are the one that trotted it out first about me. Doesn’t seem you liked it when it was turned around on you

[Calgary4LIfe]

The combination of speed, motor, IQ and shot have Tij as a higher rated prospect than Lindstrom for me.



Iginla is a driver in my mind - he is always causing things to happen out there, and is a demon on the forecheck too causing a lot of turnovers. I would argue that he is a play-driver, and a fairly good puck distributor. This kid doesn't really have many holes on his game, and he has two aces up his sleeve - his IQ and his shot.



Lindstrom isn't as dynamic for me, and thus I see him as the trigger man more than anything, though he will be incredibly valuable in his own right to any team with his size, speed, shot and mean streak. For instance, on the PP, McKenna is the guy carrying the puck, not Lindstrom. Wish the sample size was larger of course, but I do think this speaks to Lindstrom's skill-set and not just McKenna's generational skill-set.


I don't think you can go wrong picking either one as being a future core piece, but I do prefer Iginla's game and I think he is underrated as a 'franchise piece'. I think his skill set and tools, his age, and other attributes will help him become a franchise-type. Whether he is your teams' top player or just one of them, I do think he will always be a guy who touches a lot of different threads when you speak about the fabric of the game, not to mention his age and his limited playing time the prior season. I see a star, not because of the last name, but because I see a future core piece who is dynamic enough to be the line-driver.

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Lindstrom is a more unique combination of size, skating and skill.

While I like both players, you had previously stated that you were concerned Tiggy wasn't a play driver due to his shot being his best attribute.

Did Lindstrom's goal/assist splits not concern you in that case? Or is it because Lindstrom is bigger?

[Ba'alzamon]

I think the reason people typically project Tij as a winger is because he's so strong along and coming off the boards. That's mostly a winger thing.

None of that is to say that he can't be a center, but it's not unreasonable that people watching him would envision a winger, even aside from the fact that he played wing 97% of the time this season.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You have been extremely strong in your belief on how good he will be. Does that also make you Nostradamus?

Honestly, given our luck lately it wouldn't surprise me that Nostradamus is a Flames fan and the org misses out on hiring him.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You must have missed the part where I also said none of us know
Or when i said this:
“ But i'm just one opinion and talking out of my ass as much as anyone.”

Yup. Genuinely missed that part.

As long as we're keeping things in the perspective that despite doing our homework we're still shooting in the dark trying to project these players, that's cool.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Lindstrom is a more unique combination of size, skating and skill.

So a size bias?

I don't see skating and skill being an issue for Tij.

Lindstrom is putting up winger like numbers, and most likely converts to wing in the NHL because players with goal/assist ratio like his don't become stud #1C unless you are a scorer like Matthews.

[SuperMatt18]

Lindstrom:
- 0.84 Goals per game
- 0.59 Assists per game
- 1.43 Points per game

Iginla:
- 0.73 Goals per game
- 0.58 Assists per game
- 1.31 Points per game

Overall Lindstrom has better points and assist production, and is bigger...so not sure it's just a size bias. Lindstrom was projecting as a top 5 pick before his injuries.

I do think the assist per game stat for Lindstrom is not great...which would really limit him as a top line C in the NHL if he doesn't have that game.

To me he feels more like a Monahan or Lindholm at center from an offensive zone perspective...which isn't bad but isn't elite 1C potential.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So a size bias?

I don't see skating and skill being an issue for Tij.

Lindstrom is putting up winger like numbers, and most likely converts to wing in the NHL because players with goal/assist ratio like his don't become stud #1C unless you are a scorer like Matthews.

Not a size bias, just factoring in size as one should.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

While I like both players, you had previously stated that you were concerned Tiggy wasn't a play driver due to his shot being his best attribute.

Did Lindstrom's goal/assist splits not concern you in that case? Or is it because Lindstrom is bigger?

I'm not sure Lindstrom is a prototypical play-driving centre either but he could a pretty unique big, skilled, skating centre, that plays a heavy game and is a real handful out there.

So not a playmaking centre/distributor but a more rare type of player than what I think Tij is.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not a size bias, just factoring in size as one should.

And with Lindstrom it’s not just the size. He plays with the kind of aggression that’s increasingly rare in NHL prospects. Teams would love to get their hands on another Brady Tkachuk.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We need a #1C. Monny and Lindholm are good, but they don't win you cups.

Look at the guys in the finals this year, or Jack Eichel the year before, or Nathan Mackinnon the year before that.

I think that is the reason why the Leafs are a flawed team. Matthews is scoring 70 goals and getting 30 assists. He is an elite goal scorer, but he is more like a winger.