2024 NHL Draft Thread

[butterfly]

I don't think that fantasy mock draft has been updated in a while if people keep getting Hage with the Vancouver pick.

[jg13]

I really hope Silayev goes before we pick. That's going to leave us a great option at #9.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Using this as a rough guide to how the draft might play out, the Flames with the #9, #28, #64, #74 and #84, would be drafting from tiers 4/5, 9/10, 13/14, 15/16, and 17/18.

Obviously teams are going to have their own unique view on tiers, but using yours just for fun, I would select the following players:

9 - Iginla
28 - Mews
64 - Jecho
74 - Muggli
84 - Koivu

I'll go:

9-Iggy/ Lindstrom
28- Mews
41- Miettinen
64- Zether
74- O'Reilly
84- Franson


Just for s**ts and giggles.

[butterfly]

Did I miss something? We still have 41 also, right?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Bingo

In my rankings model Helenius is ...

8th McKeen's
4th FC Hockey
9th Hockey News (Kennedy)
9th McKenzie List
3rd Craig Button
3rd Recruit Scouting (Foley)
9th Scott Wheeler
7th The Hockey Writers (Forbes)

Other rankings are between 10 and 19

Button excluded I suspect most of those ranks are mid season, I looked up FC's and at the time they Iginla at #23

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Did I miss something? We still have 41 also, right?

You're right, we forgot. I added my pick for #41.

[simmer2]

For what it's worth, I sat beside a Blackhawks scout a number of months back. It was a really interesting conversation and we got to talking about the 2024 draft.

He said the Flames were drafting Iginla, no matter what. Said they loved him.

Take it for what it's worth...likely just a scout's opinion and not hard fact. But it's a data point.

[serratedmuffin]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I'll go:

9-Iggy/ Lindstrom
28- Mews
41- Miettinen
64- Zether
74- O'Reilly
84- Franson


Just for s**ts and giggles.

Do you worry about the give a crap meter on Mews? I was reading a report that included: " I can find too many instances this year where he was so defensively disengaged; being slow to get back on defense following a bad pinch, cheating the defensive zone, failing to play with physical intensity and allowing his man to get inside leverage too easily." I hadn't seen that before and makes a little nervous if the Flames pick him.

[Canada 02]

Steven Ellis of Daily Faceoff has an updated list.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/20...ionship-top-80

[Toonage]

^ Doubt the Flames pass on Tij to take Helenius but what do I know.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Toonage

^ Doubt the Flames pass on Tij to take Helenius but what do I know.

I doubt they pass on helenius to take tij.

[Bingo]

With the Ellis update and into tiers

 	Player	Position	Average
1	M Celebrini	C	1.00
			
2	Ivan Demidov	RW	2.74
			
3	A Levshunov	D	4.63
			
4	Sam Dickinson	D	6.58
5	C Lindstrom	C	7.11
6	Zeev Buium	D	7.21
7	Berkly Catton	C	7.37
			
8	Anton Silayev	D	8.53
9	Zayne Parekh	D	8.84
			
10	Konsta Helenius	C	10.16
11	Cole Eiserman	LW	10.47
12	Tij Iginla	C	10.84
			
13	C Yakemchuk	D	12.68
			
14	MBrandsegg-Nygard	RW	14.56
15	Liam Greentree	RW	15.11
			
16	Trevor Connelly	LW	17.95
17	I Chernyshov	LW	18.89
18	B Sennecke	RW	18.89
19	Adam Jiricek	D	19.00
20	Michael Hage	C	20.56
			
21	Sacha Boisvert	C	23.39
22	Andrew Basha	LW	24.94
23	Emil Hemming	F	25.00
24	N Artamonov	LW	26.85
25	Ryder Ritchie	RW	27.94
26	Terik Parascak	RW	28.63
			
27	Aron Kiviharju	D	31.27
28	E.J. Emery	D	32.31
29	L Pettersson	 	32.70
30	Henry Mews	D	32.82
31	Maxim Masse	F	32.91
32	Jett Luchanko	C	33.59

[Bingo]

Flames groupings

9th

Flames	7	Berkly Catton	C	7.37
Flames	8	Anton Silayev	D	8.53
Flames	9	Zayne Parekh	D	8.84
Flames	10	Konsta Helenius	C	10.16
Flames	11	Cole Eiserman	LW	10.47

28th

Flames	26	Terik Parascak	RW	28.63
Flames	27	Aron Kiviharju	D	31.27
Flames	28	E.J. Emery	D	32.31
Flames	29	Lucas Pettersson		32.70
Flames	30	Henry Mews	D	32.82

41st

Flames	39	Cole Beaudoin	C	40.07
Flames	40	Luke Misa	C	41.50
Flames	41	M Vanacker		41.58
Flames	42	Stian Solberg	D	41.80
Flames	43	D Badinka		42.09

64th

Flames	62	Spencer Gill	D	58.00
Flames	63	Ben Danford	D	58.67
Flames	64	Tomas Galvas	D	58.78
Flames	65	Simon Zether	F	60.50
Flames	66	Leon Muggli	D	62.38

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by serratedmuffin

Do you worry about the give a crap meter on Mews? I was reading a report that included: " I can find too many instances this year where he was so defensively disengaged; being slow to get back on defense following a bad pinch, cheating the defensive zone, failing to play with physical intensity and allowing his man to get inside leverage too easily." I hadn't seen that before and makes a little nervous if the Flames pick him.

If anything, that has more to do with age and maturity, and the fact that he only started playing D a few years ago than GAF. He has a good compete level, and plays a solid 200-ft game, but he can put himself out of position on occasion looking for offense.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If anything, that has more to do with age and maturity, and the fact that he only started playing D a few years ago than GAF. He has a good compete level, and plays a solid 200-ft game, but he can put himself out of position on occasion looking for offense.

This is a great analysis, I was going to add that his defensive game is raw and he's definitely adapting to that side of the game.

But there's no denying his offensive flare and sound skating.
Very poised with the puck and his first pass/transition game is advanced given his positional change.

I'd be very happy with Mews @ 28 especially if we go forward with the #9 pick.

[dissentowner]

Very well written, nailed it imo.

https://thewincolumn.ca/2024/05/29/f...ninth-overall/

[SuperMatt18]

The Oilers just need to hurry up and lose, Dallas just needs to hurry up and win the cup, and the draft just needs to happen already.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Toonage

^ Doubt the Flames pass on Tij to take Helenius but what do I know.

there is a podcast on youtube where he discusses his rankings. He specifically talks about Iginla and why he thinks he is lower compared to other lists.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Did I miss something? We still have 41 also, right?

Thanks. I don't know how I missed that. In that case, I'd take Basha at #41.

9 - Iginla
28 - Mews
41 - Basha
64 - Jecho
74 - Muggli
84 - Koivu

[Bingo Jr.]

I just love finally having some draft capital, nice change compared to the Brad regime.