2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Not a personal thing but winning puts buts in seats and i don’t understand how picking a pr friendly winger is going to help more than a stud defender or center especially since we dont have any centers to feed that winger.

We are all aware at the end if next year we have exactly one mid thirties center signed?

I agree if they think there is a stud defender/center left but if they don’t then Tij is a fine pick. Will be debated for years if Iginla is there no matter what the Flames do.
Eiserman/Helenius/Silayev/Iginla/Yakemchuk are pretty interchangeable. Silayev is the only one I don’t want from the top 12

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The size is intriguing, but the injuries and also the goal to assist ratio for a C is concerning.

I am more worried about the injuries. If he can get 30-40 assists and have the same goal to assist ratio as Matthews I would be fine with it.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I agree if they think there is a stud defender/center left but if they don’t then Tij is a fine pick. Will be debated for years if Iginla is there no matter what the Flames do.
Eiserman/Helenius/Silayev/Iginla/Yakemchuk are pretty interchangeable. Silayev is the only one I don’t want from the top 12

Funny thing is silayev would be a top ten pick most years no questions asked. Just shows how strong the top fifteen or so are this draft.

[jmerkel3d]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

No not at all. He's a winger in the NHL

Oh I agree. I heard an interview where he said he likes playing both but a lot of players say that in junior.

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[bdubbs]

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Didn't see this posted anywhere. Always nice to see Iggy.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Funny thing is silayev would be a top ten pick most years no questions asked. Just shows how strong the top fifteen or so are this draft.

Yeah, I still think he goes earlier but I don't want him lol

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Funny thing is silayev would be a top ten pick most years no questions asked. Just shows how strong the top fifteen or so are this draft.

I think he’ll go top 6. Some teams absolutely love him. According to scouts interviewed by the Athletic, he’s better than Simashev, who went #6 last year.

“He could be Victor Hedman,” said one scouting director to The Athletic in September.

Silayev is no longer a secret. The debate is now whether he’s a top-five pick or the No. 2 pick in this year’s draft. Some even think higher of the player.

“I go back and forth on him and Macklin Celebrini a lot,” said one scouting director, expressing a minority opinion but not one that is isolated in the scouting community. “I wake up every morning with a new answer.”

Several evaluators I’ve talked to during the season felt that if he were in North America like Artyom Levshunov, Silayev would have been in the No. 1 overall conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/548...l-draft-2024/#

[Niemo]

Assuming the top D are all gone by 9 (Levshunov, Silayev, Buium, Dickinson), I can see the 'Draft Day' movie scenerio. Murray Edwards has Iginla's jersey ready for announcement and Conroy has Helenius or Catton's name folded up on a post it in his pocket.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Parallex

To be frank if we have a GM that's going to make decisions based on assumed* fan backlash then we have a much much bigger problem.

*and given the divisive nature of the prospect of it on here I don't think that backlash should be assumed.

You also have to figure in marketing and ticket sales with a new arena on the way which in turn could bring Murray Edwards into the fold as well. I could easily see Edwards telling Conroy if Iginla is there at 9 you better take him.

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You also have to figure in marketing and ticket sales with a new arena on the way which in turn could bring Murray Edwards into the fold as well. I could easily see Edwards telling Conroy if Iginla is there at 9 you better take him.

Draft Day style! Basically, if Conroy takes someone else if Iggy is there, he better pray that player outperforms Iggy in the D+1 and D+2 seasons.

[jmerkel3d]

Do people consider Parekh as one of the "top D?" If he falls to us, is it a no brainer? He seems to be a Quinn Hughes clone which is nothing to scoff at.

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[Fan69]

Originally Posted by jmerkel3d

Do people consider Parekh as one of the "top D?" If he falls to us, is it a no brainer? He seems to be a Quinn Hughes clone which is nothing to scoff at.

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Maybe the most polarizing defender in the draft beside silayev. If his offence translates he could be a menace, if it doesnt he could be a bust.

I have him at about 80 % chance of becoming a high end offensive defender.

Please get a second pick the more i think about it one if the big six defenders will probably be at nine.

Dickinson/yak?
Parehk/yahk?
Dickinson/ parehk?
Dickinson/silayev?
Silayev/yak?

We could set up our defence for years spend the third round picks to get more seconds draft some centers.

Dickinson/yakemchuk/bedouin/letourneau?

I could live with a draft like that.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by jmerkel3d

Do people consider Parekh as one of the "top D?" If he falls to us, is it a no brainer? He seems to be a Quinn Hughes clone which is nothing to scoff at.

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I think the top 5 (in no order) is:

Levshunov
Dickenson
Buium
Parekh
Silayev

That are generally regarded as the top d-men in this draft, and then depending on what scouting service they might have Yakemchuk in that group too.

But those 6 guys are generally regarded as the 6 best dmen in the draft on pretty much any list, and likely all go within the first 15 picks (likely top 12 picks IMO).

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think it's:

Levshunov
Dickenson
Buium
Parekh
Silayev

That are generally regarded as the top d-men in this draft, and then depending on what scouting service they might have Yakemchuk in that group too.

But those 6 guys are generally regarded as the 6 best dmen in the draft on pretty much any list, and likely all go within the first 15 picks (likely top 12 picks IMO).

Like CliffFletcher says, it sounds like scouts REALLY like Silayev. MacKenzie's rankings have him at 3, first d-man off the board and ahead of Levshunov. I know nothing but what I've read about these guys, but it's interesting to hear how concerned lots of us are about him when he seems so highly considered.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Lindstrom is still my favourite, but a back injury scares the hell out of me.

And it's likely he only falls to the Flames if the back injury scares the hell out of three or four other teams too. He's the most intriguing guy in the top 15 to me and would represent the biggest risk/reward if he fell to the Flames pick.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Like CliffFletcher says, it sounds like scouts REALLY like Silayev. MacKenzie's rankings have him at 3, first d-man off the board and ahead of Levshunov. I know nothing but what I've read about these guys, but it's interesting to hear how concerned lots of us are about him when he seems so highly considered.

It's size. NHL teams overvalue it which has led to a lot of fans, myself included, to be wary of any player that has size as one of their main attributes and probably be overly cautious. I also don't love his offensive production.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It's size. NHL teams overvalue it which has led to a lot of fans, myself included, to be wary of any player that has size as one of their main attributes and probably be overly cautious. I also don't love his offensive production.

Yeah, I feel like it's a blowback on Calgary's past obsession with big no-talent defenders. The offensive production in a European men's league shouldn't bother us too much (although it's hard to compare to players playing in junior leagues).

From Scott Wheeler's May update (and as a defender!)...

"His 11 points in 63 games broke the league’s under-18 scoring record (Vladimir Tarasenko had 10 points and Kirill Kaprizov and Evgeny Kuznetsov each had eight at the same age)."

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It's size. NHL teams overvalue it which has led to a lot of fans, myself included, to be wary of any player that has size as one of their main attributes and probably be overly cautious. I also don't love his offensive production.

He’s also an elite skater, and he hits like a truck. He was the best d-man in the playoffs on one of the best teams in KHL, as a 17-year-old.

From the same article.

He’s a taller version of Simashev and a meaner version of Simon Edvinsson; both of them were sixth overall selections. Odds are that type of player is going to go very high in the draft.

“In my years doing this I’ve never seen a player like him,” said one NHL scout who started working shortly after the Hedman draft.

I don’t think there’s any chance he’s still on the board when the Flames pick.

[Sandman]

There’s no telling where any of the “big 6” D men are going to be picked. We all have our theories, and our individual favourites, but Sliayev could be the first D-man taken. Who knows, with all the comparisons to Hedman…

[YyjFlames]

Thanks, CF. Kind of why I feel so good about picking at number 9 this year. There's so much talent.

The only player that's generally ranked in the top 15 I'd be disappointed with is Eiserman, because from Sandman's comments, he sounds like a "me" player, which wouldn't be a great type of guy to get so early in the rebuild.