2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[the-rasta-masta]

If wonder if we could get something like Akil Thomas and LA's first rounder for Markstrom with retention. Maybe we need to add another pick or player back.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Why don't we just draft our own set of teenagers who can grow up together instead of spending premium assets on guys who, if they were actually any good, would not be on the market?

Carolina is a contender and they don't want Necas back.

Johnson can't crack a Columbus roster that desperately needs him.

Zegras is a Youtube act.

Rossi... Why are the Wild moving him? He just became a full time player and scored 20 goals. We already have Zary - how much are we spending to add another Zary?

Trading a 1st and two 2nds for a Dougie Hamilton level player is one thing.

These make no sense and I want no part of any of them.

I won't defend Zegras or Rossi as I don't think they're particularly interesting in trade scenarios.

But Kent Johnson is still in development, has the skill and the size to be a good player once he rounds into form, I'd much rather Kent Johnson than any of the other players. Columbus is a wreck on the whole so I won't read too much into their individual player struggles.

Necas is interesting as I'd really only like to acquire him as he's a Conny special it seems and is Carolinas misfit toy similar to Sharangovich was. I'd be interested to see him in a similar opportunity to Sharangovich on the same Flames team.

That's all I got to say really.

Other than there's something to be said about individual players not meshing with coaches or organizations honestly.

For reference see: Sam Bennett.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yup, we need to make picks as many as possible the next 3 years. All 1st rounders our and the traded ones should be untouchable, unless its to jump into a higher pick.

Comparisons of Newhook and Dach are terrible. Montreal isn't on the right track.

I disagree. They are not making the classic CDN example of trying to fast track their rebuild and have a tonne of depth coming through the ranks.

Their core is going to be elite in a few years IMO:

Caulfield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
X - Dach - X
Roy - Newhook - X
X - Evans - X

Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Harris
Xhekaj - Mailloux

Montembeault
Fowler

They will likely grab a future top 6 forward this draft and then need some bottom 6 depth. I suspect this will be the top team in the Atlantic in 4 years.

[dammage79]

That roster screams the Habs taking Iginla.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Caulfield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
X - Dach - X
Roy - Newhook - X
X - Evans - X

Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Harris
Xhekaj - Mailloux

Montembeault
Fowler

Compare this the CGY's near future core and I think it is us on the wrong path:

X - X - X
Zary - X - Pospisil
X - Kadri - Coronato
Klapka - X - X

X - X
Weegar - Anderson
Kylington - X

Wolf
X

No top line or elite core presently in the pipeline. Maybe Pelletier, Honzek, Stromgren or Coronato hit their potential and become top six producers, but they haven't shown signs yet.

[dammage79]

I'm 100 percent sure Zary will be a center on this team. He's a natural center.

[Enoch Root]

Well, Montreal has been rebuilding for several years, Calgary for several months

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That roster screams the Habs taking Iginla.

Either Iginla, Demidov or Lindstrom will be a Hab. Who knows how they have them ranked internally.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Compare this the CGY's near future core and I think it is us on the wrong path:

X - X - X
Zary - X - Pospisil
X - Kadri - Coronato
Klapka - X - X

X - X
Weegar - Anderson
Kylington - X

Wolf
X

No top line or elite core presently in the pipeline. Maybe Pelletier, Honzek, Stromgren or Coronato hit their potential and become top six producers, but they haven't shown signs yet.

Whoa now, no reason to limp Coronato in there. He was the best player on the Wranglers by a margin when he wasnt up with the Flames. Pretty good year for the best prospect not named Wolf.

Stromgren has shown signs too. Late bloomers that one. Honzek and Pelts really need clean healthy seasons before anyone can proclaim anything.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Most flailing 1st round picks don't get another 1st back.

Again core pieces are not traded away for late 1st rounders.

I'm not advocating any particular piece of draft capital should be dealt.

I am suggesting there shouldn't be a "keep all your picks and make draft selections" rule.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Compare this the CGY's near future core and I think it is us on the wrong path:

No top line or elite core presently in the pipeline. Maybe Pelletier, Honzek, Stromgren or Coronato hit their potential and become top six producers, but they haven't shown signs yet.

Montreal's roster should be better than Calgary's. Not sure you can say Calgary is on the wrong path when they just bottomed out.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If the team feels player X has more value as an asset to the team than the prospect capital in question ... you move the picks.

If they don't, you don't.

No point in applying any stringent rules about what you can and can't do. Add asset value.

True.

I just didn’t like proposals in the piece. Admittedly, I only watched the Wild when they played the Flames so the Flames may see something in Rossi, as an example, that I haven’t.

Still seems like it would be a reach at this point. I’m all for prioritizing the draft over the next three years. After that, provided they’re on an up swing, sure, trading picks for young players is a good strategy.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I disagree. They are not making the classic CDN example of trying to fast track their rebuild and have a tonne of depth coming through the ranks.

Their core is going to be elite in a few years IMO:

Caulfield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
X - Dach - X
Roy - Newhook - X
X - Evans - X

Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Harris
Xhekaj - Mailloux

Montembeault
Fowler

They will likely grab a future top 6 forward this draft and then need some bottom 6 depth. I suspect this will be the top team in the Atlantic in 4 years.

Don't necessarily see that as a locked in contender grade top 4 D either. Reinbacher and Guhle will play but are they top pairing guys? Hutson looks potentially very good but Harris... not sure. Or are they sold on Dach as a top 6 centre? It wouldn't shock me if the habs took a dman or centre where they are drafting either based on the class if they are far and away their BPA

[Geeoff]

One big advantage the Flames have is that there are a lot of teams in the division that also don't look very good.

[Vinny01]

Thoughts on this deal?

To Ottawa: Markstrom+28th
To Calgary: Korpisalo+7th

Ottawa gets a big upgrade in net and dump the last 4 years of Korpisalo. Flames get a 2nd top 10 pick and get a veteran to play with Wolf for the next several years.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Thoughts on this deal?

To Ottawa: Markstrom+28th
To Calgary: Korpisalo+7th

Ottawa gets a big upgrade in net and dump the last 4 years of Korpisalo. Flames get a 2nd top 10 pick and get a veteran to play with Wolf for the next several years.

Sure. Anything involving Markstrom and swap pick into the top 10 is money in my books lol

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Thoughts on this deal?

To Ottawa: Markstrom+28th
To Calgary: Korpisalo+7th

Ottawa gets a big upgrade in net and dump the last 4 years of Korpisalo. Flames get a 2nd top 10 pick and get a veteran to play with Wolf for the next several years.

I don’t see any chance that Markstrom + 28 gets you to #7 overall.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Montreal's roster should be better than Calgary's. Not sure you can say Calgary is on the wrong path when they just bottomed out.

I really really hope 9th last isnt bottoming out or we are going to be stuck in the soft middle for the next decade

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don’t see any chance that Markstrom + 28 gets you to #7 overall.

Taking on korpisalo and retaining on Marky would have tremendous value to Ottawa. The korpisalo contract is worth a first + on its own.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don’t see any chance that Markstrom + 28 gets you to #7 overall.

That is why I added a massive long term cap dump from Ottawa