2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://flamesnation.ca/news/4-young...his-off-season

Flames Nation has trade ideas for 4 young centers

For me it's an easy yes to all of these, so they are unlikely to be in the right realm of value.

I also value Coronato far less than some.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Andersson
Mangiapane

for

2024 1st (11th OV)
Quinn / Kulich (other top prospect)
Clifton

Might need a little more on the Buffalo side...

It's not bad but I do wonder if we could get more for Andersson not tied to Mangiapane. I would almost expect that return for Andersson alone.

11th OA
Kulich
Clifton
+ Rosen or Krebs ...

No chance they trade Quinn until they know what he is.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

For me it's an easy yes to all of these, so they are unlikely to be in the right realm of value.

I also value Coronato far less than some.

The Zegras trade is awful but I also think Zegras is an awful players.

15 points in 31 games. Coronato 9 points in 34 games. The player ain’t very good and he can be a UFA in 3 years.

The other trades are good though.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Zegras trade is awful but I also think Zegras is an awful players.

15 points in 31 games. Coronato 9 points in 34 games. The player ain’t very good and he can be a UFA in 3 years.

The other trades are good though.

Yeah, I can understand that position, but I don't agree with it. IMO Zegras needs a change of scenery, and once he starts at the bottom and the drive comes back he will see success again. There's only a year and a half difference between Coronato and Zegras, and Zegras already has 2 60+ point seasons in the NHL. Coronato has so far not shown that level of offensive upside. It's a gamble, but it would be the coming season where he would need to show up hard to compete.

I make that trade based on Zegras having higher upside and more raw skill, and that being something our team lacks immensely.

[memphusk]

I read a proposed trade on one of those trade sites. Huberdeau for Jones from Chicago. I would do that.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by memphusk

I read a proposed trade on one of those trade sites. Huberdeau for Jones from Chicago. I would do that.

Don’t think Jones or Chicago would though

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Don’t think Jones or Chicago would though

Yeah most likely but dare to dream.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://flamesnation.ca/news/4-young...his-off-season

Flames Nation has trade ideas for 4 young centers

I would do the Necas and the Johnson.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by shutout

https://flamesnation.ca/news/4-young...his-off-season

Flames Nation has trade ideas for 4 young centers

Why don't we just draft our own set of teenagers who can grow up together instead of spending premium assets on guys who, if they were actually any good, would not be on the market?

Carolina is a contender and they don't want Necas back.

Johnson can't crack a Columbus roster that desperately needs him.

Zegras is a Youtube act.

Rossi... Why are the Wild moving him? He just became a full time player and scored 20 goals. We already have Zary - how much are we spending to add another Zary?

Trading a 1st and two 2nds for a Dougie Hamilton level player is one thing.

These make no sense and I want no part of any of them.

[Sofa GM]

What about Detroit for a landing spot for Andersson,

To DET
Andersson
2025 2nd (from DAL)

To CGY
2025 1st
Axel Sandin Pellika
Marco Kasper

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Zegras trade is awful but I also think Zegras is an awful players.

15 points in 31 games. Coronato 9 points in 34 games. The player ain’t very good and he can be a UFA in 3 years.

The other trades are good though.

I think the only way you trade for him is if you think you can rebuild his value in one season, then flip him. At the rate he is going, we could be a UFA in 2 seasons because his RFA qualifying offer might not be worth it.

Honestly, Anaheim probably says no anyway, but the most I would give up for him is the #41 OA pick and maybe an average prospect. To much risk if he doesn't rebound, or he just leaves after a couple of seasons.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

For me it's an easy yes to all of these, so they are unlikely to be in the right realm of value.

I also value Coronato far less than some.

I don’t like any of the trades, aside from Johnson.

Zegras seems like a flight risk and I’m not sold he turns out to be much more than today’s Robbie Schremp.

Necas is a good player but at 26 seems too far outside the range Conroy himself said he was looking for.

Rossi leaves questioning ‘why’? Not sure I’d be too keen on giving up draft capital just yet on a player like this. I think unless there is significant upside (I would consider Johnson to be) then the Flames should be coupling these kind of acquisitions with top 5 picks, like Montreal has. 9OA isn’t quite there. Flames focus should be on acquiring another top 12-15 pick.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I would do Necas for Markstrom.

Not trading any picks for any of those players.

Teams don't trade core pieces away for late 1st round picks. So we are likely taking on another teams unwanted asset.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I would do Necas for Markstrom.

Not trading any picks for any of those players.

Teams don't trade core pieces away for late 1st round picks. So we are likely taking on another teams unwanted asset.

Exactly.

Not worth it to the Flames at this point. I think acquiring more picks, preferably first and second rounders, ought to be the priority for the next 2-3 drafts. Trading them away for fledgling prospects (wouldn’t consider Necas a prospect at almost 26) is the wrong move.

Munsch should write the same article, but the targets should be top 15 picks this year and who might the Flames be able to deal with.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Exactly.

Not worth it to the Flames at this point. I think acquiring more picks, preferably first and second rounders, ought to be the priority for the next 2-3 drafts. Trading them away for fledgling prospects (wouldn’t consider Necas a prospect at almost 26) is the wrong move.

Munsch should write the same article, but the targets should be top 15 picks this year and who might the Flames be able to deal with.

Yup, we need to make picks as many as possible the next 3 years. All 1st rounders our and the traded ones should be untouchable, unless its to jump into a higher pick.

Comparisons of Newhook and Dach are terrible. Montreal isn't on the right track.

[Bingo]

If the team feels player X has more value as an asset to the team than the prospect capital in question ... you move the picks.

If they don't, you don't.

No point in applying any stringent rules about what you can and can't do. Add asset value.

[Bonded]

I am hoping for the Markstrom at 50% +28th for the 10th.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If the team feels player X has more value as an asset to the team than the prospect capital in question ... you move the picks.

If they don't, you don't.

No point in applying any stringent rules about what you can and can't do. Add asset value.

Most flailing 1st round picks don't get another 1st back.

Again core pieces are not traded away for late 1st rounders.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

It's not bad but I do wonder if we could get more for Andersson not tied to Mangiapane. I would almost expect that return for Andersson alone.

11th OA
Kulich
Clifton
+ Rosen or Krebs ...

No chance they trade Quinn until they know what he is.

You get 11OA for Andersson, it’s likely a win.

Kulick would likely be Calgary’s top prospect, other than perhaps Wolf.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If the team feels player X has more value as an asset to the team than the prospect capital in question ... you move the picks.

If they don't, you don't.

No point in applying any stringent rules about what you can and can't do. Add asset value.

Fair, but I think the team can afford to be patient at the moment to see what these assets (i.e. picks) could turn into, rather than be hasty and try and grab a mature asset.

There will be a time for that. I'd sooner see what the amateur scouts can do with more pick ammunition and add more depth and quality to the organization.