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Old 05-13-2024, 09:54 AM   #2281
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It wasn't a bad slash by McDavid. It also wasn't a bad cross-check by Soucy, it just became worse because McDavid essentially collapsed into the stick, which otherwise would have been a push in the chest
So maybe the moral of the story is not to drop dead like an idiot at the first sign of contact, otherwise #### happens?

McDavid's diving instincts are to blame for where the stick landed. Not exactly pre-meditated by soucy since he didn't foresee his face ending up where his stick went.
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If Soucy gets suspended for this, Rutherford should come out of the shadows and go full-on Brian Burke circa 2002. Just show the crap the Oilers have gotten away with and point out publicly the double standard that's happening and take whatever fine there might be.
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:55 AM   #2283
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It wasn't a bad slash by McDavid. It also wasn't a bad cross-check by Soucy, it just became worse because McDavid essentially collapsed into the stick, which otherwise would have been a push in the chest.

In which case, if this is your logic, McDavid needs to be suspended for longer for not being in control of his stick and being an inch from taking the eye out of the guy who's probably about to win the Norris. That is far more dangerous. The worst that could have happened to McDavid from this is a bloody mouth or a chipped tooth.
I think otherwise. McDavid smacked him on a padded area. Worthy of a penalty in normal scrums, maybe. But to get a cross check to the face even if his teammate pushed him in could mean broken teeth, sure, but could also end up with a broken jaw or neck injuries. Not saying it was intentional by Vancouver as it did happen fast but it was avoidable.
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The frustrating thing is that McDavid dived into Soucy's stick, the game was over and he was still trying to sell calls, it's so ingrained at this point.
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Just a tad bit overboard lol.

Doesn't come off personally invested in this at all..
He's getting dragged.
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Poor Carson is the least culpable here. He was just relatilating for the McDavid two handed slash, towards McDavid's chest. McDavid's face was there because of Zadorov (and a huge flop by McDavid).

If that had been an intentional crosscheck to the face, McDavid doesn't get up, at least not with teeth.
100%.

Looked bad but no way he is aiming for his head. That was a hard CC to the chest gone wrong.

And it has to get frustrating when one player can get away with hitting guys with his stick with no repercussions. Tough to stand there and take a two handed slash and not retaliate.
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:58 AM   #2287
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I think otherwise. McDavid smacked him on a padded area. Worthy of a penalty in normal scrums, maybe. But to get a cross check to the face even if his teammate pushed him in could mean broken teeth, sure, but could also end up with a broken jaw or neck injuries. Not saying it was intentional by Vancouver as it did happen fast but it was avoidable.
He didn't smack Hughes in a padded area, that's for sure. It was the Gretzky high stick on Gilmour all over again.
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McWhiner should have gotten a two minute minor for unsportsmanlike conduct for flopping into a crosscheck to the face.
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He didn't smack Hughes in a padded area, that's for sure. It was the Gretzky high stick on Gilmour all over again.
I didn’t see a video of that one.
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I think otherwise. McDavid smacked him on a padded area. Worthy of a penalty in normal scrums, maybe. But to get a cross check to the face even if his teammate pushed him in could mean broken teeth, sure, but could also end up with a broken jaw or neck injuries.
If it was a different cross check, maybe, but this one was nowhere near forceful enough to cause those injuries.
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My favourite part is where the lady randomly decides to go up about 5 octaves. Syncs well to connor getting it in the face from Soucy. Actually, the first octave change can come right as zadorov slaps his back and the second is almost perfectly timed to Soucy's connection. Good stuff. Art in nature.
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If soucey gets sussed, it would confirm that the league is trying to help Edmonton as much as possible
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Pretty sure every one was going to skate away peacefully at the end until McDavid was thrown off balance and got mad and took it out on Soucy.

Really think it's a case where he should just lay in the bed he made for himself given that most of it was self inflicted when you consider how he dropped into what was a standard retaliatory check.

Let McDonkey learn a valuable lesson here instead of bailing him out when he doesn't deserve it, which teaches the opposite.
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It's not reviewed on any other player in the NHL; but Soucey will get a game. McDavid gets his own rule book.
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I didn’t see a video of that one.
Because sources like SN cut off that part on purpose.
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Oiler fans after game 2: It's tough play-off hockey! Suspensions in the play-offs should be reserved for injuries!


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Exactly.
People are spinning so hard here, it is slightly embarrassing. Canucks are taking their pound of flesh as they should, but that was a violent stick to the head incident, and should be punished accordingly.
What the league actually does will be another story, but that's DOPS.
It was. Hopefully they look back at game 2.

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I was surprised this morning that the guys on Fan960 didn't think there would be a suspension, even with the hearing announcement.

I agree that the sequence of events leading up made this not Soucy's fault, I think we'll be seeing a 1 or 2 game suspension just because of the McDavid factor. Who it happened to doesn't matter, but then noise it creates for the league just makes me think they'll do something here. Honestly there has been worse in the playoffs already and it's kind of sad seeing the inconsistency in what gets handed down in terms of suspensions.

Who slides in for Soucy if he misses any games?
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