WCSF: Vancouver Canucks [PAC1] vs Edmonton Oilers [PAC2] - Edmonton wins 4-3

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

CHED idiot:

"If you're going to beat a team that's better than you, your goalie has to steal a game. This was that game.

Play it 10 times, Oilers win 7 or 8."

Orrrr, canucks got a 2 goal lead and went into prevent mode and let the Oilers come at them and most of the "appearance" of the game was the Oilers chasing a game that they were out-classed and scored in early.

Canucks finished higher in the standings and destroyed the Oilers in head to head games. The Oilers ate also heavily reliant on their PP, which of generally known to be less of a factor in the playoffs, where fewer penalties are called.

How are the Oilers automatically the better team?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

His characterization deliberately and dishonestly omits important parts of the event to further an agenda, which is to get a player suspended. No one should be able to even pretend to be a journalist while being deliberately dishonest about the events they're writing about. Obviously the rules are relaxed a bit in a context as meaningless as sports but if this stuff mattered he shouldn't be allowed to do that job while behaving like this.

Duha has no agendas, and certainly has no preference among hockey teams.

He might have more integrity than any other writer in the sport. Full stop.

He saw something he thought needed to be addressed as a guy covering a hockey game.

You are free to disagree with his take on a situation, but the rest of what you are implying is pure nonsense.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Haven't seen a clip posted yet. Why so pissy?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1789879642817491415

and a post is not even a shot on net.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Duha has no agendas, and certainly has no preference among hockey teams.

He clearly has an agenda in that article given how he chose to write it. Read it for yourself. It's brazen.

I don't know why someone with supposed integrity would do that, but hell, Elliotte Friedman supposedly doesn't have a rooting interest either and we've all seen what that amounts to on the intermission panels.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Duha has no agendas, and certainly has no preference among hockey teams.

He might have more integrity than any other writer in the sport. Full stop.

He saw something he thought needed to be addressed as a guy covering a hockey game.

You are free to disagree with his take on a situation, but the rest of what you are implying is pure nonsense.

Connor McDavid was behind the net, jousting with Carson Soucy. Soucy cross-checked McDavid, and McDavid slashed him back on the pants. It wasn’t much — or until Soucy’s defence partner, Nikita Zadorov joined the fray. As Zadorov cross-checked McDavid from behind, causing his knees to buckle, Soucy cross-checked him in the throat.

He kind of doesn't owe up to the fact that McDavid gave him a hard two hander that started off the viciousness of the incident. There's no doubt Zadorov's cross check from behind was dirty but there's no way Soucy could have planned on McDavid's head being at the level of his stick when he was essentially retaliating for the two-hander from McDavid. This is all a bit overblown and if the Oilers forward was say Ryan, there's little chance Duha is even writing this.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

And if you want to say, "doesn't matter, you're responsible for your stick", then McDavid high stick to Hughes in Game 2 was a much more dangerous play, cut him an inch below the eye.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He kind of doesn't owe up to the fact that McDavid gave him a hard two hander that started off the viciousness of the incident. There's no doubt Zadorov's cross check from behind was dirty but there's no way Soucy could have planned on McDavid's head being at the level of his stick when he was essentially retaliating for the two-hander from McDavid. This is all a bit overblown and if the Oilers forward was say Ryan, there's little chance Duha is even writing this.

He also says that Soucy crosschecks him before the slash, and it is clearly a push, his left hand is off his stick. The description of the events clearly skewed in favour of the Oilers.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

He clearly has an agenda in that article given how he chose to write it. Read it for yourself. It's brazen.

I don't know why someone with supposed integrity would do that, but hell, Elliotte Friedman supposedly doesn't have a rooting interest either and we've all seen what that amounts to on the intermission panels.

Sounds like a difference of opinion as opposed to "lying".

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Pissy with a classless interview.

"Posts are not good goaltending".

These guys never give anyone credit.

Honestly he’s the most stereotypical German player I have ever seen.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sounds like a difference of opinion as opposed to "lying".

Deliberately omitting key facts that the author knows of (he clearly does) and should know are relevant and would affect the reader's view of the events (he knows that too) is lying. It's not any better than attempting to influence the way those events come off by making things up out of whole cloth. It's intentionally dishonest, and while obviously intentional dishonesty favouring the Oilers is nothing new among the people who make money reporting on that team (Oiler media is basically Fox News but about stuff that doesn't really matter), it's still not something that the Athletic should be happy to feature on its website.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He kind of doesn't owe up to the fact that McDavid gave him a hard two hander that started off the viciousness of the incident. There's no doubt Zadorov's cross check from behind was dirty but there's no way Soucy could have planned on McDavid's head being at the level of his stick when he was essentially retaliating for the two-hander from McDavid. This is all a bit overblown and if the Oilers forward was say Ryan, there's little chance Duha is even writing this.

Yeah to say there is no agenda is just false. He works for the athletic and isn't some independent journalist writing his own pieces. He writes what will get views and this article is one of them so he wrote it. That is an agenda.

As you said if this was a no name player this isn't being talked about.

I like Eric Duha and he has been around this city for several decades but let's call a spade a spade. That was a propaganda piece for the Oilers fan base to eat it up.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Deliberately omitting key facts that the author knows of (he clearly does) and should know are relevant and would affect the reader's view of the events (he knows that too) is lying. It's not any better than attempting to influence the way those events come off by making things up out of whole cloth. It's intentionally dishonest, and while obviously intentional dishonesty favouring the Oilers is nothing new among the people who make money reporting on that team (Oiler media is basically Fox News but about stuff that doesn't really matter), it's still not something that the Athletic should be happy to feature on its website.

Goodness.
Or he just sees it as an overt cross check to the head area that warrants a suspension.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

In which case he should make his case honestly and not deliberately omit important facts, or mischaracterize other facts, in a manner that serves his agenda. There is a way to write an article of the type you describe in a fair manner (though it would be hard to square with the stuff the Oilers have done without a similar article about those, or without at least saying in the article that you think those things are suspendable too).

Regardless, he didn't write that article. He wrote this trash.

[Groot]

Just checked the stats from the game last night. McDavid and Draisatl played for over 29 minutes each. Bouchard was over 31 minutes. 5 players had less than 10 minutes. Amazing depth.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

McDavid's ice time was the highest for a forward in a non-OT game since 2005.

[Nammer403]

Can they substitute Ian Cole for Soucy?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1790039981148230039

[Sylvanfan]

I think it's two separate reactions that result in the hockey equivalent of a chop block. Zadorov gives him a shot in the back after seeing the slash. At the same time Soucy tries to give him a shot in the chest. But due to the other shot from Zadorov McDavids level changes. I do think McDavid embellished the kidney shot a bit and Soucy's shot isn't that hard because he gets up pretty easily and pretty quickly from it and doesn't look any worse for wear.

If guys like Zadorov and Soucy want to hurt him...they easily could there.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1790032811014938914

[SuperMatt18]

My guess is he gets one game just to appease the masses and ensure nothing happens.

Really though the media always ends up proving itself to be a bunch of closet Oilers lovers, not hard to tell that a bunch of hockey people were Oilers bandwagon fans in the 80s and want nothing more than to relive that.

[FlamesAreOne]

Zadorov finned $5K.

Worth. Every. Penny.